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gfaust
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Initially Posted - 01/24/2004 : 16:49:44

whats the best way to lower the boom
i have a slip knot ?

gfaust

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Arlyn Stewart
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Response Posted - 01/25/2004 : 11:43:06

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"> whats the best way to lower the boom
i have a slip knot ?<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

On the boat or crew?

But, actually I know you mean boat... because you emailed the question to me... but I do want to take this opportunity to welcome you to the forum and congratulate your purchase of a new 2004 250 WK.

Enjoy the boat and the forum... and please excuse my indulgence... though it did win a trip to the bloopers page.

http://www.stewartfam.net/arlyn/blooper12.html

Gary, you have the singular distinction of joining a growing fraternity with your first post... again... welcome.

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 01/25/2004 : 11:55:19

Welcome to the club, Gary...I'm sure you'll enjoy your new boat!

As far as your question concerning your topping lift, I'm not sure how your's is rigged, but on my C25 the topping lift is routed along the boom, down the mast then back to cabintop where it is cleated off.

Again, welcome Gary.

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frog0911
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Response Posted - 01/25/2004 : 23:42:29

Gary, welcome to the association and congradualtion on your new C250. The topping lift on mine is stop by a camcleat mounted on the starboard side of the boom.
What is your hull number? Is your backstay split or single and were does it attach to the hull?
Again welcome to the forum and the association.

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Oscar
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Response Posted - 01/27/2004 : 20:24:09

Welcome indeed....In addition to the usual uses, the topping lift is most important to relieve the stress off the boom when reefing. So, I added a block on the pin that holds the aft stay (up on the mast head) and led a line from the boom, up to the mast head, down to the mast foot and aft through an organizer to a stopper. Beats trying to catch a flopping boom in a breeze.

Oscar
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gfaust
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Response Posted - 01/31/2004 : 17:44:12

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by frog0911
 Gary, welcome to the association and congradualtion on your new C250. The topping lift on mine is stop by a camcleat mounted on the starboard side of the boom.
What is your hull number? Is your backstay split or single and were does it attach to the hull?
Again welcome to the forum and the association.
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

the way it was explained to me buy the dealer prob why
it is confusing he told me just tie a slip knot at the opening under the boom near the mast and the undo it after. i think what i would like to do is get a rigged ajustable vang and throgh away the lift ?

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gfaust
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Response Posted - 01/31/2004 : 17:46:54

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bill bosworth
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Response Posted - 01/31/2004 : 23:23:27

gfaust;
I did a simple modification for a topping lift, and kept the second sheeve in the boom for a second reef. I'll try to post a picture of my topping lift.
Bill c250wb Serendipity

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Captain B
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Response Posted - 02/07/2004 : 12:49:39

Mine is rigged similar to Bill's. I'd like to run it to the mast and then to the cockpit though.

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zebra50
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Response Posted - 02/08/2004 : 13:58:07

if it helps my topping lift is run, as shown in the owners manual, tied off at the masthead through the rear of the boom to the front (mast end) and back about 1/4 where it comes out the side of the boom to a clam cleat

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frejoh
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Response Posted - 03/05/2004 : 14:07:04

Our 2003 WK 250 (hull no. 669) has the topping lift going to the masthead and then down to a cleat on the starboard side of the mast. We also have the Dutchman flaking system. This has led me to wonder if we need a second cleat to tie off the reefing line, which with the 250 and a nervous family is often necessary. Any thoughts? Is there another place to tie off the topping lift?

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Arlyn Stewart
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Response Posted - 03/05/2004 : 18:04:18

I am not a fan of the topping lift running to a block at the mast head for at least two reasons. Its one more halyard to slap and one more halyard that can accidentally go to the masthead.

The picture shows both the reefing setup for double line reefing and a topping lift settup. I thought that Catalina was routing a topping lift to the starboard side of the boom but evidently it must be an dealer commissioning item. I know when I installed mine, I had to mill the exit slot but there have been a lot of folks say they have theirs set up the same way so I'm guess that Catalina at least mills the slot in the boom for the exit. It of course can be brought out the front of the boom and down and led to the cockpit.

I have no experience with a rigid vang so don't have an opinion other than I've never heard any one who installed one say it was a waste of money or that they didn't like it. I'm a trailer sailor so haven't considered one.

I can say this about sail management, with the topping lift and double line reef lines all run to the starboard side of the boom near the mast and main halyard, reefing is quite easy. In my opinion, I'd rather have all the lines in one place and don't mind that they are on the cabin top.

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frejoh
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Response Posted - 03/09/2004 : 15:11:57

I thought the cam cleat on the port side of the boom is for securing the outhaul!?!?

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Arlyn Stewart
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Response Posted - 03/09/2004 : 17:28:43

Yes, port side is for outhaul, starboard side is for topping lift. Note: early hull numbers won't have the starboard side cleat but it can be added.

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sdaly66
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Response Posted - 04/01/2004 : 14:21:06

Been away for a bit, but this is one of the projects that I would like to do this spring also.

Some very good advice here. Thanks to all.

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