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pwhallon
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Initially Posted - 02/08/2004 :  12:27:21  Show Profile
<font size="3">I was doing some mindless surfing and stumbled on to this photo of pretty little boats docked at St. Barts.</font id="size3">

<font size="4"><font color="red">I knew I should have gone to med school...AAARRRGGGG.</font id="red"></font id="size4">

Gotta go to work. See ya later


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osmepneo
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Response Posted - 02/08/2004 :  12:55:24  Show Profile
Are you taling about the Zodiac? Or, the crusie ships?

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Captain B
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Response Posted - 02/08/2004 :  13:04:39  Show Profile
I like the Zodiac better.

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Gloss
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Response Posted - 02/08/2004 :  13:06:16  Show Profile
Hey P

I think you are mistaken. I do anesthesia for a living (I'm a Certified Registered Nurse Anesthetist--we do approx. 65% of the anesthesia procedures in the US) so I can respectfully comment on your observation semi intelligently.

The dingy in the foreground is owned by medical professionals. The Large yachts in the background are owned by lawyers who have made their money suing medical professionals. That's one of the reasons why the best and the brightest are no longer entering medicine. There are very few folks entering cardiovascular, cardiothoracic, or even obstetric specialties any more. I'm really scared for 20 years down the line if I need a surgeon.

For example, I work with a brilliant vascular/general surgeon whose son is in law school. When asked if he was dissapointed that his son was becoming a lawyer he replied "I'd be dissapointed if he was in medical school" Almost every doc I work with is discouraging their offspring from entering medicine. Very Scary.

I'm not even allowed to deduct any of the interest expenses on my considerable anesthesia school debt, (not to mention 7 years lost out of my life preparing for this) but am expected to do cases for free. Approx 22% of our cases are no pay. I don't mind doing these cases, but this is like double taxation.

Sorry to get on a soapbox, you have struck a raw nerve with me, but the situation will only get worse.

Did you know that since the Canadian national health system (the one that one of our political parties thinks is so great) started a few years ago the life expectancy for women has actually DROPPED about 2.5 years. I'm not sure how much for men.

Trust me-and sorry for the rant

Now I'll wait to be flamed by the folks who think I should do all of my work for free. I hope to retire before it gets too bad in our profession.

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sailgal
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Response Posted - 02/08/2004 :  17:45:03  Show Profile
Frank,
It wouldn't be called "work" if it was all done for free. Keep your spirits up, and go for a sail

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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 02/08/2004 :  19:18:35  Show Profile
Frank: Sounds like you're predicting, compared to Canada, a worse outcome for our "system". The GP I used to see, and perferred over the current one, doesn't accept Blue Cross--just Medicare. When I went to work for a company that used Blue Cross, I had to switch. In a few years, when I qualify for the government system, I'll be able to switch back. I also know that private insurers' administrative costs (mostly "coordination of benefits") are many multiples of Medicare's--it was 11 times when I was working in that industry a few years back. And that's a major percentage of the overall cost. "Private" isn't cheaper, and private case management generally is no better for the patient. I presume your 22% is courtesy of private insurance (or lack thereof). I agree we're in trouble-- due in no small part to the legal and insurance industries and their money.

Stories and statistics about Canada's system are all suspect, due to political gamesmanship. Some friends of mine (professionals) who lived under that system say they would go back in a heartbeat. (You can be suspicious of that story, as well, if you wish.) But I've been on the edge of being uninsured, and the prospect sucks.

Now I'll step down.

I see those white plastic "things" all around me here, and more in Newport, RI. If they don't have two helicopters on pads (port and starboard), they ain't no great shakes! Trump's boat has two big Donzis in a boat house in the transom. I may barely be able to afford the C-25 I have, but my aspirations don't go to those "things."

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Gloss
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Response Posted - 02/08/2004 :  19:33:55  Show Profile
Thanks for the encouragement Susie, I feel better now.

I'll feel better when I arrive in the Keys on or about Feb 15 or 16 for two and a half weeks of sailing.

Excellent therapy: Sun, wind, surf, fresh seafood, snorkeling, sunsets with a cool beverage. Too bad I just broke up with my lady friend. But I have some great male friends flying down, they just arent the same though.

Two trips ago I met a female attorney who owned a 35 foot Com Pac, who invited me to go sailing with her. Who knows what may happen this trip. You meet the nicest people, like the ones in our association, sailing.

Frank Gloss
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Sea Trac
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Response Posted - 02/08/2004 :  19:39:20  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Dave Bristle</i>
<br />...but my aspirations don't go to those "things."
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Amen, brother.
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">But I've been on the edge of being uninsured, and the prospect sucks.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">
But not as much as the reality.

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pwhallon
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Response Posted - 02/09/2004 :  09:11:25  Show Profile
<font size="3">Hey Frank,

I wasn't trying to poke at medical professionals.

It was supposed to be a funny little post about life's decisions, not a political statement.

By the way, in 1992, I sold an Acura NSX to a Cardiologist. He pulled out his check book and wrote a $78,000.00 check like paying for lunch at Wendys. When ready for delivery, he threw me the keys and said,"take it out for a while and make sure all is right with the car". Cool guy. My commission was $500.00.

I have a very good friend who is an E.N.T. in Ohio. He does quite well.

I too don't care about material posessions, but big toys are kinda cool.

Sorry guys, I didn't mean to start a "rant".

PW </font id="size3">

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Gloss
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Response Posted - 02/09/2004 :  09:33:08  Show Profile
P

I know that you weren't trying to poke fun at us.

I wouldn't want a big motor yacht either. But that rib dingy in the foreground did look neat, didn't it

Frank

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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 02/09/2004 :  09:51:38  Show Profile  Visit Frank Hopper's Homepage
Do you suppose those come with trophy Admirals?
It is hard for me to imagine the life style of someone who can own one of those. After all it would be only one of their toys. I would suspect a surprising number of them are not American owned, and an even larger number not American registered. I recently converted some frequent flyer miles to Yachting and Conde Naste subscriptions, some of my fellow teachers were appalled at the excesses they represent. It is interesting that when we see ships like those we only wonder about the wealthy owner and seldom think about the workers employed building them. The economy works in mysterious ways.

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pwhallon
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Response Posted - 02/09/2004 :  10:28:06  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><font size="3">The economy works in mysterious ways</font id="size3"><hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">

<font size="3">I saw a show featuring Palmer Johnson a few years ago. They employ some of the last of the American Master Craftsmmen. From Welders to woodworkers, they are the best in the business.

The Owner, Of PJ, stated that he felt good that people could prosper and buy these big yachts if for nothing more than to keep the crafts alive and in America.

PJ is now owned by the guy who "created" Monster.com. He has actually expanded the company.

I guess the downside to this whole picture are the Enron's and Martha Stewarts who only seem to prove that if you are not on the inside you are definitelly on the outside.

My Dentist freind and I learned that the hard way when we were ripped off by a stock broker in 2000.

That's why I don't currently own a boat. I am happy though.

I think the Yacht in the middle is flying a Cayman Island flag. I've been there one time and loved it.

PW</font id="size3">

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pwhallon
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Response Posted - 02/09/2004 :  10:31:43  Show Profile

Thanks Frank:

The rib is cool. How about the Admiral sitting on the guys lap.

Now the gals on the forum will be after me.

PW

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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 02/09/2004 :  10:37:01  Show Profile  Visit Frank Hopper's Homepage
I wonder where the davits are for the Honda CRV?

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Shelby
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Response Posted - 02/09/2004 :  11:40:11  Show Profile
I wonder if they feel bad when they can't get to their boat the way I do.

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pwhallon
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Response Posted - 02/09/2004 :  13:11:19  Show Profile

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">But then there's the matter of ethics: someday we've got to come to a universal conviction that it's immoral for anyone to get rich from the misfortunes of others.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">

I'll second that motion.

PW

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