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Bob3589
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Initially Posted - 03/25/2004 : 17:07:05

I plan on replacing the masthead sheaves in a few weeks and was wondering which ones to buy. Should i buy the new sheaves that Catalina Direct has or go to Bellpat Marine as some have done according to a past thread ?? Which sheave is the best ??

Also, for those who have gone to all line halyard, is it worth the extra cost ?? I just bought a new main halyard a few months ago when i ran my lines aft to the cockpit -- i have the wire/line halyard now. Just wondering if i should switch to all line while i had my mast down.
Thanks for any input on this.
Bob
'83 TR/FK.

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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 03/25/2004 : 17:42:44

I found the knots where the line made up to the wire eyes to be dangerous. They can wedge under the lower shrouds at the tang. Then the sail won't move up or down. I consider my change to 1/4" line a safety measure. I got the Belpat's sheaves and think they are great and a whole lot cheaper than CD's bearing sheaves. Many people feel that is the wrong place for bearings, if they go bad you have a situation where you either drop the stick or call Spike.

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Leon Sisson
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Response Posted - 03/25/2004 : 17:44:46

Bob,<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">...replacing the masthead sheaves in a few weeks and was wondering which ones to buy. ... Which sheave is the best??<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">Depends on what you want to end up with, see below.

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">...for those who have gone to all line halyard, is it worth the extra cost?? I just bought a new main halyard a few months ago when I ran my lines aft to the cockpit -- I have the wire/line halyard now.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">It was worth it to me. Like you, I bought new rope tails for my wire halyards. After thinking over the many C-25 halyard options, I bought the Catalina Direct internal halyard conversion sheaves (well, actually I bought a set of every masthead sheave option offered by Catalina before deciding which way to go), and new all rope halyards long enough to reach back to the cockpit. I think I ended up throwing the like-new halyard tails in my spare rope pile. Can't have too much spare rope.

If you do buy new rope halyards, it's a good idea to have at least one headsail halyard long enough to reach a few feet below the waterline and back to a winch. This is a safety feature in case you or your crew ever have to hoist an exhausted or injured person aboard. (Or hoist anything else aboard for that matter. I use my extra long spinnaker halyard to lift my dinghy aboard.)

Now if you really want to be buried under choices, ask this group what line to use for halyards!

-- Leon Sisson

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rclift
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Response Posted - 03/25/2004 : 20:11:28

Bob,
There is a bit of a difference between the mastheads of the tall rig and standard. Several skippers have found that the sheaves from Catalina Direct didn't fit properly and, if I understand right, the halyards chaffed against the masthead. I found the sheaves from CD to work perfectly for my tall rig.

I don't see any great advantage to going internal except that you will only need two sheaves instead of four. The insides of my mast is a mass of very sharp screws that hold on the whisker pole track. I would need to do something to clean up all those sharp objects before I could even think of running halyards through it. Getting rid of the wire/rope halyards has been a very positive and "quieting" change.

I agree with Frank that the connection between the wire and the rope presented a big safety hazard. Several times the knot would wedge into the lower shroud connection to the mast and I would be literally in a "bind" and have to go forward to yank the halyard loose. It always seemed to happen when I was in need of reefing or getting the sail down in haste.

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ClamBeach
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Response Posted - 03/25/2004 : 22:34:59

I converted to all-line last year. Used the bellpat sheaves... pleased with the results.

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frich
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Response Posted - 03/26/2004 : 07:37:43

Bob
A few years back we had a big discussion on how CD sheaves are not properly sized for rope halyards.

I found a local salty dog here on LI who manufactured the correct size sheave. I think it was $26 + shipping for (2).

They work great call Ed at Bellpat Marine 631 286-8368. Oh boy poor ed here comes the rush again!!

Frank R
84 C25 SK

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