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Tony Partain
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Initially Posted - 05/24/2004 :  15:11:06  Show Profile
I am in the process of adding a Gennaker to my C250. The masthead appears to have a spinnaker bail on it. I called Kent at Catalina and sent him a picture of this he is not familiar or aware of any bails put on a c250. So I called the previous owner to see if he had made any modifications to the masthead. He has not. According to Kent the only bails were on a C27. This leads me to believe that Catalina will use what ever that they have laying around at the time to complete a boat. I haven't see the mast truck up close and have a photo of the bail from the ground. I am wondering if this the same masthead that was used on a 27 and if it has a second sheave for an internal halyard? I would prefer to run an internal vs. an external halyard. Any thoughts?


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Edited by - Tony Partain on 05/24/2004 15:14:16

Keith D.
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Response Posted - 05/24/2004 :  16:31:17  Show Profile
There is a pin for a spinnaker / halyard block (owner installed option) This page is out of the owners book. and here is a picture of my mast head it should look like yours. getting the halyard internal in the top would not be a problem but you would have to be cut another slot at the bottom to get it out and I do not know if this can be done without affecting the strength of the mast. Yours looks quiet diffrent.Keith

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Tony Partain
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Response Posted - 05/24/2004 :  18:33:49  Show Profile
Your masthead looks completely different than mine. I wish that my picture was a little better. As far as the slot there is one already cut in my mast. I am just wondering if there is another sheave in the masthead. What year is yours? Mine is a 1997 tall rig wk.

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Bubba
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Response Posted - 05/24/2004 :  20:13:09  Show Profile
Tony, my 1997 tall rig has the same mast truck as yours, with the welded bail. I had the mast down this winter but I don't remember an empty sheave. Funny how you look at something and don't really see it.

Are you using your jib halyard? The CDI furler that came on my boat doesn't use the jib halyard. I haven't tried it but was hoping I could use it later on when I can afford a drifter.

Edited by - Bubba on 05/24/2004 20:13:51
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Tony Partain
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Response Posted - 05/24/2004 :  20:22:58  Show Profile
Bubba I don't have a furler so I need to add a halyard for the spinnaker. I also had the mast down three month ago and don't remember if there was one there. But it was the first day the I owned the boat. I got my gennaker from Cruising Direct for about $600.00 When you order online they give you a 10% discount.

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Bubba
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Response Posted - 05/24/2004 :  20:39:39  Show Profile
I'll keep Cruising Direct in mind. That's a better price than I expected. Maybe I won't have to wait so long to get one.
Judging by our hull numbers, I'd guess our boats are twins.

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Keith D.
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Response Posted - 05/25/2004 :  13:28:04  Show Profile
It's not the masthead from the C27 here is a picture of the mast head from the owners manual of a C27. It looks a lot like the one on the c250. Yours must be a special one they used on the tall rigs.

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Arlyn Stewart
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Response Posted - 05/26/2004 :  06:45:50  Show Profile  Visit Arlyn Stewart's Homepage
Very often, perhaps even normally when using a rolling furler, the masthead pin for the spinnaker block is not forward far enough for a spinnaker halyard to clear the furler properly.

The solution is to use a mast crane which projects the block 2-3 inches forward of the spinnaker block pin of the mast truck.

If A CDI furler were used, the jib halyard could be re-routed to a custom built mast crane and block, otherwise an external halyard will be needed.

A hanked on sail, should allow adding a block directly to the pin on the masthead as depicted in the drawing.


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Tony Partain
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Response Posted - 05/26/2004 :  15:36:35  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">A hanked on sail, should allow adding a block directly to the pin on the masthead as depicted in the drawing<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">

Arlyn if you look at the picture closely on my previous post you will see that my mast truck is different that the one depicted in the drawing. Mine is hull 271 and 270 has the same setup. If I can manage to get enough time on Saturday I will take the mast down and see first hand.

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