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gmcdent
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Initially Posted - 06/27/2004 : 09:59:36

I am the new owner of a 1983 Catalina 25'.
When opening the port cockpit locker just in front of the gasoline locker, I find a tremendous amount of wasted space. There is also a green hose and some kind of pump. I assume the pump and hose are the electric bilge pump. Correct me if I am wrong.

Has anyone figured a way to use this extra space (netting etc) so that it is useful without actually putting things on the "floor" of this compartment. Seeems it would be a good place for fenders dock lines and such.

Also where is the best place to store the anchor line so it is ready to use. The anchor locker is fine for the anchor and rode, but where to put the 200 feet of line seems difficult.

George C. on At Last

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OJ
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Response Posted - 06/27/2004 : 11:32:21

Hi and congrats George.

Indeed, I often refer to the port lazarette as the blackhole . . .

Briefly, I fastened a 1"x2" (nominal) strip of yellow pine around the top edge (fortunately this edge is a level plane all the way around) of the fiberglass liner that makes up the bowels of the lazarette. Next I cut a piece of 3/4" plywood to rest on top of the 1"x2" lip. Using a hole saw I then cut a series of 2" holes in the plywood to (1) provide ventilation between the (now) lower and upper portion of the lazaratte (2) lighten the weight of the plywood (3) provide something to grab onto to remove/install this new shelf.

You still have to remove everything that sits on top of the shelf to get to the bottom of the lazarette but it does allow you organize and separate things. You won't have to reach down to get those often used items that always manage to work their way to the bottom!
Good luck!

Edited by - OJ on 06/28/2004 00:05:49

Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 06/27/2004 : 13:13:13

I do not have a furler. It is a sail locker. Sail bags stand up in the locker and fill it fairly quickly. Fenders, sails, life jackets, throwable PFDs, deck brush on long handle, adjustable boat hook, throw your boom cover down there; I don't find it to be too big nor wasted. Don't for get the water-balloon equipment too.

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sanibelle
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Response Posted - 06/28/2004 : 14:04:14

On my 1980 TR/FK there is one locker lid on the rear of the port cockpit seat. The lid is about two feet wide, extending from the transom. The locker, however, extends all the way up to the cabin wall. My gas tank sits on a shelf in the locker just below the lid and is open to the entire locker. Access to the forward portion of this locker requires long arms! Did this setup change in later years?

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RichardG
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Response Posted - 06/28/2004 : 14:51:05

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Did this setup change in later years?<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">

I believe they switched to the external gas locker setup sometime in the latter part of the 1980 (i.e. same model year as your's, but higher hull #).

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OJ
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Response Posted - 06/28/2004 : 16:19:16

I think Richard is correct, my hull #2428 has the cockpit gas locker - but the liner in the rear portion of the lazarette has the recessed lip for a gas can also. Catalina more than likely wanted to use up the liners they had in inventory.
I think the forward portion of the lazarette of all C25s have an echo, hence the above shelf.

Edited by - OJ on 06/28/2004 16:20:47

Ed Montague
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Response Posted - 06/30/2004 : 12:43:57

I haven't posted this picture for awhile for those who are new to the site. This was my answer to short arms, deeeeeeep storage area, and I am not sure what it does for the echo.

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JimB517
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Response Posted - 06/30/2004 : 13:35:43

Do you guys NOT have a door from the quarterberth into the port lazerette?

Its not really a door, its a big 2' x 1' access panel. Although I have it closed now, when going cruising I generally just leave it open all the time.

You can easily get things in and out of the deepest bottom of the space through this door.

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Ed Montague
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Response Posted - 06/30/2004 : 13:43:50

Jim, I see that your boat is the same vintage as mine, ie 1978. How do you handle having the gas tank become part of the boat's interior when the panel is off. I realize that the panel is a poor excuse for separating the lazarett from the quarter berth, but at least is something.

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JimB517
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Response Posted - 06/30/2004 : 16:47:43

There are no leaks, no fumes, so having the panel off has no effect. Its kind of a pain to put back on, especially in cruising configuration when that low ceiling useless berth area is totally loaded (sleeping bags, overnight bags, beach toys, food items, etc).

I guess if there every was a gas leak I'd know it soon(er). Its a crazy design from a safety point of view because all the electrical wiring is in there too.

I don't put stuff in the lazerette I'm likely to need often. I have the spare anchor / rode, anchor stabilizers, my reserve gas tank (I carry 10 gallons in 2 tanks in there, I can switch tanks by simply moving the fuel line) spare lines, oil, spare 110% jib, camping gear for beach camping, kayak paddles, .....

Its actually a useful area for bulk items as long as you load it in the correct order and use the access hatch to reach the bottom items.

You can really get a list to port if you put too much in there!

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MattL
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Response Posted - 06/30/2004 : 17:40:40

Jim,
Do you hall all of that stuff out when you are getting ready for a race? Or are you one whom doesn't race?

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CRAIG P
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Response Posted - 07/06/2004 : 12:17:50

Thanks for the ideas, I am getting an access hatch like Ed Montague and install it below deck in the vertical panel between the quarter berth and the port lazerette. That will give me the best of both worlds.

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jm
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Response Posted - 07/06/2004 : 14:22:31

Caution - I've been told by Catalina that the wood panel that exists between the rear quarter berth and the port locker is structural. Be sure that whatever change you might make to it, doesn't impact its structural purpose. (support for the cockpit floor area)

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CRAIG P
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Response Posted - 07/17/2004 : 14:13:28

Thought I would share photos of what I did yesterday, I have not had time to reap the benefits yet, but I can already see it will be helpful. I also thought if I needed the separation I could add a plastic coated closet shelf. Thanks for the ideas.

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Keith Dennis
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Response Posted - 07/20/2004 : 14:16:59

Craig,
I have a window unit air conditioner installed on my boat in the same area where you've installed the access panel on yours. This makes for cool nights at dock! Nice job on the panel, good idea.

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CRAIG P
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Response Posted - 07/20/2004 : 17:15:37

Hmmmmm, Keith that is a really GREAT idea. I kinda hate that you brought it up, I am thinking about that now!
Craig

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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 07/20/2004 : 19:13:40

My ventilation fan blows on one side and sucks on the other to keep the unit cool. I have never had any condensation in the lazarett or bilge.

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