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svmoxie
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Initially Posted - 08/06/2004 : 09:41:38

I am looking for a used spinnaker for Moxie... I think that this one is a bit too big though... what do you think?

Actually this is one of the hot air balloons that Napa Valley Balloons flies. Pretty cool picture of a great memory... if you ever get the chance go for a ride, it is well worth getting up early for!

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Winston-Salem, NC

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Bruce Baker
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Response Posted - 08/06/2004 : 10:28:52

I bought a used spinnaker on ebay for about $200. You might also look at Bacon sails in Annapolis or that place down in Florida (Atlantic Sail Traders, or something like that).

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Gary B.
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Response Posted - 08/06/2004 : 11:39:56

I just bought one from Minney's in California for $295, but it needs to be shortened by 6" to be class legal. Not a bad sail, but it has a skull and crossbones on it! Why did I not have it for "Pirate's Night", last Friday's beercan theme??? Dang!

Gary B.

It's hard to find one EXACTLY the right size. My friend, Terry, got one a bit oversized and had it cut down to exactly the right mid-girth and luff for Nationals.

BTW, Clif, we saw hot air balloons the day we took you to the airport, remember? And Kathy said she'd like to ride in one? As it happens, one landed at the private airport just across the road as we came home, and they took us both up for a short tethered ride, for free....the captain was a female sailor who commented on my Nationals shirt and gave me her card!

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Bruce Ebling
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Response Posted - 08/07/2004 : 00:23:00

I have a cruising sail that I thought was a asymetrical,and it turned out to be a symetrical spinnaker. What are the dimensions of the C25 spinnaker? I might be interested in selling mine or trading for an asymetrical sail.
Bruce Ebling
1989 WK Selah

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Gary B.
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Response Posted - 08/07/2004 : 13:03:13

Bruce, for a standard rig, the Class Rules allow up to 29'3" on the luff and leach, and up to 18'10 3/4" at the maximum mid-girth measurement. Anything up to this is legal. My chute measures something around 27'6 at the luff, 24 something on the leech, and 17'6" on the foot. What is the measurement of your sail?

Gary B.
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P.S. Missed you at the National Regatta

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Bruce Ebling
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Response Posted - 08/07/2004 : 16:47:16

Gary: I am going sailing today and will measure my sail. I will also try to get some photos of it up.
Bruce

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Bruce Ebling
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Response Posted - 08/07/2004 : 22:56:54

Gary: The winds were 20+ at the lake today so I did not put the spinnaker up, but I did have the chance to measure it. The red luff measures 28'-7" and the green luff measures 26'-4" and the width of the sail is 17'-4". Is it common for the two luff measurements to be different?
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Bruce Ebling
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Gary B.
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Response Posted - 08/08/2004 : 02:31:00

Bruce, the two different measurements are what makes it an "asymmetrical"....meaning "not the same on each side". The longest side, the luff, should be tacked down at the stem. I use a snap shackle on a line that goes through a block and back to the cockpit so I can raise it when going dead down, and pull it taut when reaching. The sheets go on the shorter side, or the clew. You can fly it like a big jib and gybe it inside the forestay, or you can sheet one sheet around the forestay and gybe it outside of everything, but the sheets need to be longer. I wish mine were that big! I would have maybe done better than 3rd at Nationals with a chute that much larger than mine! (sort of kidding....but mine is smaller by a foot, at least on the luff and leach...)

Do you have a "chute scoop" or other "snuffer"? An ATN is best, I think, but they all work to a degree. They make handling it a lot easier for sets and douses, but I have abandoned mine for racing as it is just too slow. I use it when single-handing, however, and have flown it in close to 20 knots, I suppose......but not at first! Get used to it. If you can sail 8 knots or so DW, the 20 is really only 12! Enjoy....good luck.

Gary B.
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PS Missed your visit at Nationals, Bruce. We had a ball.....

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Bruce Ebling
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Response Posted - 08/08/2004 : 11:37:29

Gary: Thanks so much for the help, just by looking at the sail it apeared to be a symmetrical sail. I did not realize that an asymmetrical would have the luff measurements so similar to each other. The sail came with a snuffer and that makes things much easier to use. It also has a pendant on the tack that has a pulley on it so I can raise or lower the tack. It sounds like I have everything I need to practice using the sail. The sail did not come with sheets, what size of line is common?
I came through Portland on Friday evening and drove through Tommahawk Marina looking for any signs of C25's, but I did not have the map with me to locate the Willamette yacht club building, so I came away dissapointed that I was not able to hook up with the group (my fault for being in a hurry when we left). It sounds like you guys did an awesome job! Maybe sometime in the future we can get together. If you are ever in the Eugene area be sure to look me up.
Bruce ebling
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Gary B.
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Response Posted - 08/08/2004 : 12:19:51

Bruce, You should use as light of line for sheets as you can "hand"le.....in other words.....not so little that it will hurt your paws. I have used as light as 1/4", but it was hard on my hands, so I have gone to some sort of rather high tech braid that is 5/16" I think, but quite light. It was about 90 cents a foot, though.....through a rigger friend. You MAY need up to 50' for each sheet...IF you decide to gybe out around the forestay....less..Maybe 40' ? if you intend to gybe inside the stay. Do NOT get them too short!

Hope this helps....all the best,

Gary B.
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