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Ben
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Initially Posted - 08/23/2004 :  13:19:12  Show Profile


Pretty cool!
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Oscar
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Response Posted - 08/23/2004 :  13:30:37  Show Profile  Visit Oscar's Homepage
Can''t tell, is #3 feathered?


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Brooke Willson
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Response Posted - 08/23/2004 :  13:45:14  Show Profile
Wow, and I thought the Powers That Be were only trying to drag us back to the fifties . . .

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pwhallon
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Response Posted - 08/23/2004 :  14:43:03  Show Profile
WOW,

That looks like a B-17. 1940's.
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Steve Milby
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Response Posted - 08/23/2004 :  15:05:32  Show Profile
That's probably the B24 or 25 that was in Dayton for the past week. They were taking people up in it for $280. They're probably giving rides in Columbus this week. Until I saw it flying over south Dayton a few days ago, shortly after it took off, I had forgotten about the deep rumbling sound of their engines. Measured by the standards of the times, they made a fearsome sound at low altitudes.
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At Ease
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Response Posted - 08/23/2004 :  15:15:20  Show Profile
Looks like a B29...a B25 has only two engines and a B24 has twin vertical stabilizers (tails).
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Ben
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Response Posted - 08/23/2004 :  15:38:37  Show Profile
Someone at the marina said they were giving rides out of Don Scott Airport at OSU, so it must be the same plane Steve saw. Steve's right too, the noise that thing made was impressive. One of the guys at the marina said it was a B-17 though. Anyone definite as to what it is?
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Buzz Maring
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Response Posted - 08/23/2004 :  16:10:22  Show Profile
<font color="blue">... One of the guys at the marina said it was a B-17 though. Anyone definite as to what it is? - Ben</font id="blue">

'Sure looks like a B-17 to me ...
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Brooke Willson
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Response Posted - 08/23/2004 :  16:23:38  Show Profile
I'll bet my boat, my first born child, and my 30 year old Martin guitar that it's a B-17. Probably a G model, which had the chin turret. In my former life I used to absolutely obsess about airplanes -- my dad flew in WW2. I've seen the same plane here in Virginia flying to an airshow. My assumption is that it's the Confederate Air Force's B-17 -- there aren't very many others flying.
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Tony Dillon
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Response Posted - 08/23/2004 :  16:33:22  Show Profile
We had seen that plane flying over Vashon Island in early July. One of the old Boeing employees that hangs around the marina said it is a B-17.
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oldsalt
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Response Posted - 08/23/2004 :  16:46:11  Show Profile
It's a B 17.
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Gloss
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Response Posted - 08/23/2004 :  16:56:34  Show Profile
I hope it's one of ours
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Derek Crawford
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Response Posted - 08/23/2004 :  17:18:05  Show Profile
The Confederate Air Force changed their name to "Commemorative Air Force" a while back. They are based in South Texas (Midland? Harlingen?) They also have the only B-29 "Super Fortress" still flying.
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cvwall
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Response Posted - 08/24/2004 :  08:15:39  Show Profile
That's a B17G, probably the same one I saw at the New England Air Show at Westover AFB two weeks ago. There are several of these still flying with various foundations. There's also a B24J, the "All American" that shows up at some shows. BTW, for all warbird buffs, if you go to Britain be sure to visit the Imperial War Museum annex at Duxford, outside Cambridge. There is a large, American wing in addition to the British displays, which include a Lancaster, Mosquito, and various Spits and Hurricanes. On the way to the American wing there is a wall of glass panels along the walk with formations of aircraft sillouettes. They are of various types and mods of American fighters, bombers and transports. At the top of the walk, at the entrance, is a stainless steel pylon inscribed "Lost while flying from UK airbases..." followed by the totals from 8th air force, navy, transport command, etc., and you realize that each sillouette represents a lost aircraft and crew; quite sobering.
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MattL
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Response Posted - 08/24/2004 :  09:16:41  Show Profile
just looks like a big ass aeroplane to me. I still remember my grand parents flying to california from boston in a prop plane.
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Todd Frye
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Response Posted - 08/24/2004 :  13:00:23  Show Profile
Speaking of a memory repository, I dropped into the Pima Aerospace Museum (http://www.aero-web.org/museums/az/pam.htm) in Tucson and was very impressed. I highly recommend this place for anybody who is even remotely fascinated by stuff that flies. The docents that I talked to all flew in the planes (including B-17’s) that were on exhibit. That was an experience in itself. I even saw the exact same “Constellation” that brought Eisenhower to Denver when I was a kid. Just put boaty on the hard yesterday. We’ve pretty much run out of water in Utah. Fair winds. Todd Frye
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bren737
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Response Posted - 08/24/2004 :  15:04:32  Show Profile
She is indeed a B-17 'G' model owned by the 'Yankee Air Force' in Michigan. According to their info she was built too late in the war to actually see combat but has been restored over a nine year period and does both static and flying demos now. There are only 12 B-17s left flying in the world. Hard to believe when you consider how many thousands were built during WWII. Like most left over hardware they were melted down and became the beer cans and car fenders of the 50's and 60's. . .


Here's an 'upper shot' of the same plane from the 'YAF' web site. What a beauty!
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Ben
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Response Posted - 08/24/2004 :  15:40:18  Show Profile
Thanks for the pic and the info, Bren. BTW, I saw another Catalina named "Ruah" when I was in Michigan. This one was a C30 though. I was wondering if you had moved up in size and didn't tell us.
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willy
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Response Posted - 08/24/2004 :  15:49:23  Show Profile
Isn't that the same plane as the Memphis Bell?.
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bren737
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Response Posted - 08/24/2004 :  17:53:56  Show Profile
Ben,

Maybe some day you'll see 'Ruah' on a bigger boat which is indeed mine--hopefully a C-350! No time soon, however (private schools, pending college, etc, etc,) and I'm too lazy to work that much overtime! I checked the name on the 'search engine' someone had posted here a couple of weeks ago and came across four or five 'Ruah's; I think two were sailers and a couple of commercial fishing boats.
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Willy,

It's basically the same plane, however, the 'Belle' was a slightly earler 'F' model. Biggest difference was that it lacked the articulating 'chin turret' beneath the nose of the plane. The poor guys would get slaughtered from frontal attacks before the turret was installed; not that it was a piece of cake even afterward.
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dave holtgrave
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Response Posted - 08/26/2004 :  09:31:32  Show Profile
hope it's one of ours
ha ha!!!
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Jeff McK
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Response Posted - 08/26/2004 :  13:28:02  Show Profile
If you folks ever get the chance & can part with some boat units, take a ride in a B-17. Really noisy, but what a rush!! Look for air shows where the Commemorative Air Force is present.

It's not cheap ($150-200), but as previously noted there are not many left still flying, and the number of opportunities are shrinking. Your money helps keep them going. Fuel consumption is huge, and parts are custom made, 'cause Sunny's Surplus is all out!
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Ben
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Response Posted - 08/26/2004 :  14:06:51  Show Profile
I would certainly pay that! Well worth the cost to ride in such a significant piece of history.
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RichardG
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Response Posted - 08/26/2004 :  14:32:22  Show Profile
Looks like a Hunter (e.g. no backstay).
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Gloss
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Response Posted - 08/27/2004 :  17:59:36  Show Profile
Last night I saw part of an old Steve Mcqueen WW2 movie in which he was a B17 pilot. When I saw that the nose of the plane had a turret I said to myself "Why that's a G model" Of course without a backstay it could have been a Hunter.

See how smart one gets when he owns a C25 and is a member of the association.
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