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Dave Seely
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Initially Posted - 03/16/2002 :  22:38:14  Show Profile
Replacing the motor mount is one of my projects I had intended to do this winter and as usual I didn't quite get it done on time. I have scanned through several catalogs and web sites and found what I thought was the perfect mount, a Garelick 71044. It has 14" lift, rated for 155 lbs and recomended for 4 strokes. Last week I found out that the Fulton 1810 motor mount doesn't work on a Catalina because the motor is too close to the transom. That is something that I had never considered and there is no information on this dimension in the catalogs. Does anyone have the Garlick 71044 mount on there boat? and how far off the transom does the motor sit in comparison to the original bracket?
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Douglas
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Response Posted - 03/17/2002 :  12:55:35  Show Profile  Visit Douglas's Homepage
Garelick is a goooood mount. I have one on my Catalina. I had a spring break on it and replaced the mount with an older one I bought of a Association member for 25$. I had to go to the local hardware store so I could rebuild it with new teflon washers and a few new stainless bolts. Ended up 50$ total investment. Ask around I know someone has one tossed under their work bench somewhere.
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Bristle
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Response Posted - 03/17/2002 :  13:12:11  Show Profile
Dave: If I knew then what I know now, I probably would have bought the Garelick 71044. You may already know that you can get 1" poly blocks from Garelick if you need a little more clearance--part 99061. The 71044 probably needs two sets. You can also do what I plan to do--use a piece of 1/2" Starboard under the bracket to spread the load. (I'll probably use a another piece inside as a backer.) Keep in mind the rub rail, which may be at about the level of the bracket handle.

I will probably get some aluminum extension channels from Fulton to use with the 1810 I already have--they put the bracket 5" out from the transom. That'll solve the problem with the bracket handle, and will help with clearance for tilting the motor.

Another option: The unit sold by Catalina Direct, made by Garhauer, is a beefed-up version of the original-equipment stainless tube bracket. They say it's rated to 150 lbs and travels 14". I'm not replacing the original equipment--I'm replacing the DPO's flimsey sheet-stainless Garelick 71038 that is barely strong enough for my previous 82# low-thrust Honda.

Dave Bristle, 1985 C-25 SR-FK #5032 "Passage" in CT
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Bristle
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Response Posted - 03/18/2002 :  17:27:26  Show Profile
Dave Seely: I sent an e-mail to Garelick asking them about the 71044 vs. 71090 (given that I was interested in the additional vertical travel of the 71044), and here's their response:
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Thanks for your inquiry. At one time, we did recommend the 71044 for
4-stroke motors, but we do not anymore. We DO recommend the 71090.
This bracket was specifically designed to hold the added torque of the 4 strokes.
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's always somethin'

- Dave

Dave Bristle, 1985 C-25 SR-FK #5032 "Passage" in CT
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Shelby
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Response Posted - 03/18/2002 :  19:06:05  Show Profile
Dave,

Well that is enough to torque you off. I ordered the 71044 about four weeks ago (they have lost a shipment). I wonder if I should cancel my order and go for the 71090. The only issue I see is the 9 1/2 inch travel vs. the 14 inch travel on the 71044. I wonder why they don't recommend it any more. What do you think?


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tapinkham
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Response Posted - 03/18/2002 :  21:56:13  Show Profile
I made the mistake of getting the 71090. The original model nearly fell apart on me. They refit it for me but it now sits under my work bench. Let me know if you are interested........
I ended up getting the mount from Catalina Direct.

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Shelby
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Response Posted - 03/18/2002 :  22:51:39  Show Profile
tap,

you really know how to make a guy feel comfortable. Just kidding.

Shelby on "Third S" '82 C25 #3208 SKSR
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Bristle
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Response Posted - 03/18/2002 :  23:15:01  Show Profile
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I wonder why they don't recommend it (71044) any more. What do you think?
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Shelby: The 71090 and the Fulton 1810 and 1820 (all of which are nearly identical from what I've seen) are made with cast U-shaped aluminum channels as the main structural components. The 71044 appears to be made of flat aluminum bars that would not resist sideways or twisting forces nearly as well. Now, remember that they make these units not just to hold a motor that's pushing the boat, but also to hold a trolling motor in the up position on a power boat that is pounding through waves at high speeds under its primary power. I suspect that jostling can be too much for the design of the 71044. But the torque from an extra-long shaft high thrust Honda or a 120+ lb. Tohatsu/Merc/Nissan might be too much, too.

I can tell you my Fulton looks and feels unbelievably strong--the components are very thick box and L section castings. Something (like a car wreck) might be able to break them, but nothing is going to bend them. The 5" cast extension channels should fix the clearance problem and give me a very strong unit that I'll have to push down, and that'll probably pop up. But I will have spent over 3 boat units by the time it's over. Maybe the Catalina Direct unit is the most cost-effective solution. I can't really judge the 71044, since I've never seen more than pictures of it.

Your call...

Dave Bristle, 1985 C-25 SR-FK #5032 "Passage" in CT

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