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frog0911
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Initially Posted - 11/13/2004 :  15:21:18  Show Profile
When I ran six lines back to the cockpit on PennyII, I ran into a small, but annoying problem. Were do I put all the extra rope? Catalina supplied to nice bags in the cockpit to hole ropes. I found that I could stuff all into them, but as you can figure the one I needed was always on the bottom so all had to come out. Bren had some nice line hangers on his boat that came from WM, but when I priced them, $4.05 each including shock cord, screws and tax, I said, got to be something cheaper. It took awhile, but I found this 3M product at Homey Depot for $3.70 a pair including tax and I did not have to drill holes in the cockpit. I bought a pair and stuck one on in May to give it a test in the Fl. sun and hurricanes. In late August I removed it as the directions said with no marks, no glue and it was just a if it came out of the package. Needless to say, I went back and bought enough to do everything, including dock lines in the head. Total required 14, cost $26 as opposed to $56 and best of all, no holes in the cockpit.

The one on the left is the orginal from May-Aug. test.
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C250, Pretty Penny II, #743
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Buzz Maring
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Response Posted - 11/13/2004 :  17:24:00  Show Profile
Hi Jerry,

Those look pretty good! I'm not clear about a couple of things though ... how are they attached? How do you get them off without leaving any marks ... do you use a solvent or something?

Thanks!
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Dkn420
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Response Posted - 11/13/2004 :  20:15:37  Show Profile
Jerry: Great Idea! What area of "Homey Depot" did you find the line organizers? On another note, I'm flying into Norfolk on 12/4 and I imagine we are leaving the next day or no later than 12/6. When I'm a few days out from your area I'll be in touch so we can try to catch up with you...Dan #727
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frog0911
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Response Posted - 11/13/2004 :  23:36:49  Show Profile
Buzz, if you look at the package you will see some strips with red outer cover. These are double stick, the red goes on the back of the cord bundler, then after cleanning the area to apply with actone you pull the black strip off the back side and press in place. The tongue of the sticky strip (round edge) sticks out from the bottom. To take off you just pull on the tongue with a steady pull and it just pops off, clean as a whistle.
Dan, they are in the hardware department, usually on the end of a aisle.
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Lightnup
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Response Posted - 11/14/2004 :  12:05:40  Show Profile
Great idea Frog. I used a smaller version for stringing christmas lights around the porch roof and the clips stayed there year after year.

Steve
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John G-
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Response Posted - 11/14/2004 :  17:26:06  Show Profile  Visit John G-'s Homepage
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Great idea Jerry. I love it when a product that is not a “boat” product does a job well.
The [url="http://www.3m.com/us/home_leisure/command/products/cordmgmt.jhtml"]3M Cord Bundlers [/url] are one of a [url="http://www.3m.com/us/home_leisure/command/products/index.jhtml"] family of clips and organizers [/url] that 3M makes using the reusable adhesive.
I never wanted to screw permanent line holders into the bulkhead and this is a great solution.

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 11/14/2004 :  17:31:51  Show Profile
Excellent idea Jerry!
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Jeff McK
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Response Posted - 11/14/2004 :  18:15:24  Show Profile
According to the product page (see John G's link) , you can also buy <i>REPLACEMENT</i> stickies. Very neat.

I guess the only remaining question is below deck use & how well it stays put in sub-freezing weather during the off season. Worst case is it falls off & you put it back on in the spring.

Thanks, Jerry!
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Lightnup
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Response Posted - 11/14/2004 :  20:01:58  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">I never wanted to screw permanent line holders into the bulkhead and this is a great solution.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">

Agreed. If I'm going to be doing any screwing in my boat, it won't involve permanent line holders.
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frog0911
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Response Posted - 11/14/2004 :  23:18:51  Show Profile
I put six in the head to hang the four docklines and two springs. So far so good. Plan to use them in the aft berth to hang dock bumpers on the port wall.
John G. has got it right, I just have not looked for other uses of their products yet. Maybe someone else can come up with other uses for their products. Just don't like putting holes in boat that are not necessary.
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Ray Seitz
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Response Posted - 11/15/2004 :  07:23:36  Show Profile
That 3M tape is great stuff. I have been using it for 3 years to fasten on my cup holders. It does come off easily and without a trace when you need to remove the sticky stuff. My backstay in the mast raising process frequently tests my cup holders and 3M adhesive. The adhesive has held out and cup holder failed most of the time.
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sailgal
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Response Posted - 11/15/2004 :  12:13:41  Show Profile
Thanks for sharing the tip Jerry, what a great idea. Wonder if they'll stand up to the summer heat in the head when the boat is locked up. Worth a try!!
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