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pwhallon
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Initially Posted - 11/14/2004 :  11:54:57  Show Profile
http://www.catalinayachts.com/yachts.cfm?act=model& id=71& link=photos

OOH LA LA

PW

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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 11/14/2004 :  12:22:40  Show Profile  Visit Frank Hopper's Homepage
The bilge/engine room has as much head room as a 22!

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ClamBeach
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Response Posted - 11/14/2004 :  12:42:03  Show Profile
I wish Catalina would make a pilothouse model. Having an inside steering station is #1 on my next boat selection criteria. Being stuck out in the cockpit during bad weather or on the midnight watch isn't really my cup of tea anymore. I think lots of other folks my age feel the same way.

Maybe somebody from Catalina reads this forum... (they should).

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 11/14/2004 :  13:12:03  Show Profile
I'm not too crazy about the simulated pilothouse design on the Catalina/Morgan 440. The bump up on the cabintop, with its LARGE windows on the raised section and smaller windows forward, looks oddly old fashioned, like some Tartan and Islander designs from the 60's.

I much prefer the cleaner, more classic lines of the C42 or C47.

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lcharlot
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Antigua and Barbuda
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Response Posted - 11/15/2004 :  08:29:30  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by dlucier</i>
<br />...Catalina/Morgan 440. The bump up on the cabintop, with its LARGE windows on the raised section and smaller windows forward, looks oddly old fashioned, like some Tartan and Islander designs from the 60's.
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Yeah...Those big windows are reminiscent of the Islander Freeport 36. I would not feel safe in a storm in a boat with such big windows, and a 44 footer is likely to be taken out into the open ocean sometimes, unlike our C-25's and 250's.

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Steve Milby
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Response Posted - 11/15/2004 :  09:07:19  Show Profile
The raised coach roof gives you much more interior volume, and especially head room for taller people. The head is almost too big. It would be hard to brace yourself in there in a seaway. You might want to install a seatbelt! The size of the two staterooms is something you dream about!

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Jeff McK
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Response Posted - 11/15/2004 :  11:38:34  Show Profile
Steve,

There have been times I would wish for seatbelts in the heads on airplanes. In a space the size of the ones on the 440 maybe a full body harness suspended from the overhead might be a better option in rough seas.

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Brooke Willson
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Response Posted - 11/15/2004 :  14:14:24  Show Profile
A boat in the slip is better than a million on the internet. I've met too many boat owners who never sail the boat they have, because they're always thinking about the boat they don't have. I'm thankful for what I've got.

Brooke

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pwhallon
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Response Posted - 11/16/2004 :  09:30:12  Show Profile
Based on the responses, I wonder if Calalina didn't build a "dud".

At the rally in 2000, Mr. Butler said they were considering building a Motorsailor. Maybe that's what they should have done.

I must admit, I too am not thrilled with the 440. It seems the deck/salon style is in vogue these days.

Maybe she'll just be a "Marina Queen" . Motoring out once in a while.

PW

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ClamBeach
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Response Posted - 11/16/2004 :  09:58:38  Show Profile
"I wonder if Calalina didn't build a "dud".... Maybe she'll just be a "Marina Queen"

IMHO she's designed to be an 'entertainment' boat... mostly used as big, roomy daysailer for taking guests out. Of course you could use her as a passagemaker, but as others have pointed out, her design has shortcomings for real blue-water use.

Will she be a 'dud'? I think that depends on perspective. In her target market segment, she may be a real winner.

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