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aeckhart
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Initially Posted - 11/15/2004 : 16:18:57

Earlier this year there was a discussion about, and pictures of, the English version of the Catalina 25. One of the interesting differences in the two boats is that the English version has the main sheeting in front of the cabin hatch. I am thinking of trying this next year but cannot locate the threads pertaining to this subject. Any help out there??

Al
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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 11/15/2004 : 16:43:21

Search the General and C-25 forums (separately) for "Jaguar".

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Steve Milby
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Response Posted - 11/15/2004 : 16:55:21

The following is the website for the Jaguar Owners' Association. I looked at a photo of a Jaguar 25, and the mainsheet is rigged like ours.

http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/westgatefamily/default.htm

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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 11/15/2004 : 21:38:19

The thread was called exploded view and I have refreshed it in the 25 forum, go there.

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aeckhart
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Response Posted - 11/16/2004 : 09:13:14

Thanks Dave and Steve. The mid-boomn sheeting issue is an interesting one to say the least. I'm sure it would generate a raft of further comment and ideas. At the risk of doing so, here is my thought; I like the concept of moving the mainsheet traveler to the hatchway, I would want it to span the entire cockpit to get it out of the way of the hatch when not in use, I don't like the way that it would interfere with the lower portion of the hatchway - it's a tripping hazard.

My design idea involves recessing the traveler into the seats, port and starboard, which would retard the tripping hazard, allow relatively comfortable seating, and provide maximum sheet adjustment. It would also require some major "cutting and pasting", and maybe the work of a professinal, but I believe it is a practical solution to the overall problem.

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ClamBeach
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Response Posted - 11/16/2004 : 10:02:36

I'm pretty sure the Jaguar never came with a the pop-top... that's what allows easy fitment of the cabintop traveller. As someone who's never raised their poptop... I wouldn't miss it.
(May have to reconsider that statement after the Sea of Cortez)

I wonder how many C25 owners use the pop top on a regular basis?

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Response Posted - 11/16/2004 : 10:54:14

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by ClamBeach
 I'm pretty sure the Jaguar never came with a the pop-top... that's what allows easy fitment of the cabintop traveller. As someone who's never raised their poptop... I wouldn't miss it.
(May have to reconsider that statement after the Sea of Cortez)

I wonder how many C25 owners use the pop top on a regular basis?
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The Jaguar 25's top is "permanently popped"--it has a raised roof in the same area as our pop-tops. You can see it on the site Steve provided. You can make your own form/function judgements...

I use my pop-top on nice days at anchor or even in the slip. It adds headroom, light, and lots of air. I don't think the enclosure has ever been unfolded, and I've removed some of the exterior snaps. I found the poptop especially useful when mounting hardware to the cabintop--I could get to both sides of things like organizers or a clutches. That isn't something you do often, but it's great when you do it! CD's struts would be a GREAT enhancement--that might come after next season when I'll have to store her mast-down.

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Bill Holcomb
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Response Posted - 11/16/2004 : 11:09:34

Hi All,

Looks like the photos that Steve posted the link to show the traveler at the forward end of the cockpit. Not on the cabin top. Other than not being class legal for racing, any of us could do that......and some have.

Bill Holcomb - C25 Snickerdoodle #4839

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ronrryan
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Response Posted - 11/16/2004 : 13:02:58

I used to sail a lot with a guy on a Dufour 2800 (27 ft). The mainsheet traveler was just at the edge of the cockpit well aft of the small bridgedeck. The lower block traveler ran about at the level of the seat, and stopped its travel at each side of the footwell, did not go across the seats to the full width of the cockpit, just the full width of the footwell. This left room for people to sit with their backs up against the cabin aft bulkhead, but gave pretty good use to the mainsheet, and was in the way but not as much as you might think. All that was necessary to rig the traveler track was a strong teak cleat throughbolted to the inside face of the footwell, and the track was bolted to that on top.Maybe this thought helps, ron Orion srsk SW FL

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lcharlot
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Response Posted - 11/18/2004 : 00:30:56

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by ClamBeach
 
I wonder how many C25 owners use the pop top on a regular basis?
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I raise the pop-top at least once every day I am on the boat, and usually three or four times. The pop-top is up whenever the boat is at anchor or in her slip, since I am 6'-2" and need the headroom. In fact the lack of a full pop-top, and the much lower headroom is the main factor that turned me away from the C-250WB when I was looking to move up from a C-22 back in 1996. The C-25's pop-top is a "must-have" feature for me.

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Gloss
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Response Posted - 11/18/2004 : 19:25:41

A pop top is a must have for us "normal" sized folks like Larry and me who are 6'2" or more (I'm almost 6'3" if I stand up straight like mom always told me to)
When at anchor I'll raise the top, and raise the boom with the topping lift. I'll sail with the top up if the wind is light

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