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existentialsailor
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Initially Posted - 11/27/2004 :  06:54:18  Show Profile
I have 2 jibs for my boat. I also have a roller furling. Neither jib has luff pads. I have had it recommended to me that I add these. Since I'm sending one of them to Sailcare for cleaning and repair, I thought this might be the time to do that.

Any advice? Pros and cons? What advantages will I see from this padding?

Thank you.
Rick
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lcharlot
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Response Posted - 11/27/2004 :  08:42:00  Show Profile
Luff pads are supposed to give you better sail shape when the sail is partially furled. The downside to them is the added bulk, which makes it slightly more difficult to fold and bag the sail. I have also heard that the foam pad itself degrades over time from ozone and UV exposure and only lasts a few years, so it is not a permanent fix. I don't have a luff pad on my new 135; if the wind is so strong that I need to furl the headsail, I would rather be running a smaller sail.
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frog0911
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Response Posted - 11/27/2004 :  09:47:55  Show Profile
By your post I cannot tell if you have two hank on jibs and a roller or all you sails are roller, but if they are hank on's the luff pad is not necessary. If they are all roller sails then as Larry suggests, they are helpfull, but not the save all. On PennyII, I stole an idea I read in sail magazine. I went to Homey Depot and got a large piece of pipe insullation, split it and before I roll up the jib I slide it up the luff as far as I can standing on the bow pulpit then roll it up. This helps maintain the sail shape and smooths out the sail when rolled up. Of course, in bad weather, when you have to reef the jib this could be a little riskey, but in bad weather, I find just getting sail reduced is the prime directive not perfect shape. When going out to sail I always raise the main with the first reef in and pull the roller out to 110%. The pipe insullation helps maintain the sail shape when rolled out to this point. If the heel angle is less than 15 I will pull out the roller full (135%) and then if heel is still less than 15 I will take out the reefed main. This procedure is the result of the C250's sailing characteristics and for ease when single handling. The 250 sails best at a heel angle of 20 or less.
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Oscar
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Response Posted - 11/27/2004 :  10:53:57  Show Profile  Visit Oscar's Homepage
FWIW.....As it is the only headsail I have, I had the foam added on Lady Kay's 135.....(a close to 60 foot luff, don't a$k) also, the sailmaker recommended putting reinforcement where the "tack" and "head" are when rolled out to 100-110%....it made a noticeable improvement in sail shape, like the absence of a bag and bad wrinkles and obvious stress points. It produces a nice flat "blade" with a nice even leech.

Oscar
C42 # 76 "Lady Kay" (Ex. C250 WB #618)
Georgetown MD/Fort Lauderdale FL
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jwilliams
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Response Posted - 11/30/2004 :  21:23:36  Show Profile
I added a foam luff to my 150 in June. It has made a big difference when I furl/reef in shape. I recommend it. Cheap too at about one boat unit.

Jim Williams
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aeckhart
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Response Posted - 11/30/2004 :  21:32:31  Show Profile  Visit aeckhart's Homepage
North has developed an innovation, a luff rope, that flattens the sail
as it is furled. It works the same as a luff pad, but is lighter and can be transferred to a new sail if you have to replace your old one. Check out their web site. I'm having one put on my 150, which I am having cut down to a 135 and rigged for a new Shaeffer furler. I'm also having the same done for my two year old 110 for club racing.

Al
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