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zebra50
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Initially Posted - 12/31/2004 :  11:29:14  Show Profile
Has anyone, had any problem taking down the furler when lowering the mast? I know those of you that trailer regularly must have some solution to this problem. I have had to lower the mast only 3 times in the past 5 years and each time it takes real pain to get the pin out of the chainplate. I have used the spare halyard to pull the mast forward, and at the same time the mast raising strap to help.
The pin still needs to be pounded out. Putting it back in will be equally as difficult. Thanks for the help. Have a great New Year.



Jay
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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 12/31/2004 :  11:48:30  Show Profile  Visit Frank Hopper's Homepage
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by zebra50</i>
<br />Has anyone, had any problem taking down the furler when lowering the mast? I know those of you that trailer regularly must have some solution to this problem. I have had to lower the mast only 3 times in the past 5 years and each time it takes real pain to get the pin out of the chainplate. I have used the spare halyard to pull the mast forward, and at the same time the mast raising strap to help.
The pin still needs to be pounded out. Putting it back in will be equally as difficult. Thanks for the help. Have a great New Year.
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Do you mean the forestay is still too tight or the pin is too large for the stem fitting? Is your backstay as loose as possible? With Swept spreaders you can probably take the backstay off and use the main halyard as a safety.

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bear
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Response Posted - 12/31/2004 :  12:03:05  Show Profile
Jay, I don't think your doing anything wrong. My self-established procedure says to loosen the backstay all the way but don't disconnect it. Then I have one of my helpers pull forward on the halyard I use to lower the mast and the pin will usually pop right out with little force. Hope this helps.

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Oscar
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Response Posted - 12/31/2004 :  12:17:31  Show Profile  Visit Oscar's Homepage
Don't take this the wrong way but I have to ask the obvious.... I assume you loosen the turnbuckle inside the furler drum?

Then:

The backstay on the 250 is barely functional. Most, if not all of the force opposing the headstay comes from the upper shrouds. Loosening them will give you more room to play with. Doing that regularly is a pain, so I put a shackle in between the furler and the stemhead, to lengthen the headstay. There is still enough travel on the turnbuckle to tighten it, but It can be loosened more. If you're interested I'll dig up the info and help you with that. Finally, make sure the turnbuckle is safetied (kotter pins) The turning action of the furler CAN undo the turnbuckle....

Hope this helps.

Oscar. in Orlando's finest LaQuinta on New Years eve, light out by eight...

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Keith D.
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Response Posted - 12/31/2004 :  16:07:05  Show Profile
Jay I put out a post on this topic some time ago as to how I do it with out loosening any of the adjustments. That pin is the hardest part of taking down and putting up the mast. As a trailer sailor I just don't have time to readjust everything if I am going out for just one day. You will need to have some way to pull down on the drum to take the tension off of the pin for both removal and reinsertion. I use the winch in the gin pole but you could do the same thing if you lead the line back to one of your winches on the cabin top. I also added an eye to the front of the boat but you could use the eye strap, which is already on the boat, but further down. Hope this helps.
http://www.catalina25-250.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=6352

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zebra50
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Response Posted - 12/31/2004 :  22:08:49  Show Profile
Thanks for all the help here. I do like Keiths idea because I also do not want to do all the adjustments to the turnbuckle. I did try using the wich with the spare halyard line and it seemed to help a bit. I was hesitant not to put to much tension on it for fear of having it snap. I will try to pull down on the drum when installing it and see how that goes.

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zebra50
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Response Posted - 02/28/2005 :  20:44:41  Show Profile
I recently noticed in a CDI ad in our mainsheet that there is an additional toggle attached to the chainplate between the toggle on the furler and the chainplate. Does anyone have this type of attachment? It would add just a bit of length and would make it much easier to put the pin through to the chainplate.

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