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Steve
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Initially Posted - 03/25/2002 : 11:19:10

I know this has probably been covered a hundred times, but I'm getting ready to buy some new cushion covers, and I want to make sure I am getting the right ones. I'm not sure if I have the "dinette" or the "tradional" interior. I do have a dinette table that folds up into the bulkhead, does that make it a dinette version? Are the cushions interchangeable between the two?

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Steve
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Mark Maxwell
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Response Posted - 03/25/2002 : 11:51:40

If your table folds up to the bulkhead you have a traditional layout. The two dinette versions lay the table down into the seats to make a large berth. The cusions that should be the same between the different layouts are the V berth area and the Aft berth area. The main saloon area does not match. Except maybe the back rest on the starboard bench seat. Look in the Tech tips to see the different styles. Knot Yet has a very nice picture of a dinette interior.

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 03/25/2002 : 11:59:23

Steve,

On the dinette model, the table is attached to the port bulkhead. This link,http://c25c250.best.vwh.net/restricted/cabin.jpg shows the interior.

On the traditional model, the table is attached to the forward bulkhead and a settee is along the port bulkhead. This link, http://c25c250.best.vwh.net/restricted/crose1.html shows a traditional interior.

Don Lucier, Northstar
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Champipple
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Response Posted - 03/25/2002 : 12:49:42

Steve,
Before you do anything don't let Don's the use of the word bulkhead in both definitions confuse you.

The Traditional interior table attaches to the forward bulkhead on the port side of the boat the table runs fore and aft.

The dinette attaches to the port side of the boat (not normally considered a bulkhead) this table runs athwartships.

For an easy explanation, takk a look at this link....
http://c25c250.best.vwh.net/restricted/bro79-3.jpg

Duane Wolff
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Chief Measurer C-25/250 national Org.
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Response Posted - 03/25/2002 : 13:20:16

Okay, I have the traditional interior. Thanks for the reply's - there are some cushion covers for the dinette version on the Swap Meet, and I almost bought them.

Steve
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Mark Maxwell
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Response Posted - 03/25/2002 : 14:09:56

Steve did you see this post in the Swap Meet?
http://www.catalina25-250.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=734

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Response Posted - 03/25/2002 : 14:56:03

Duane,

You're right, I should not have used the term "bulkhead" so loosely like that. The six years I spent in the Navy still has me thinking that in a compartment there is a deck, overhead, and four bulkheads.

Don Lucier, Northstar
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Steve
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Response Posted - 03/25/2002 : 15:17:52

Mark,

Those are the cushions I am considering purchasing. I saw the post a couple of weeks ago, and have emailed the seller a few times about price, shipping, etc. For some reason, I ended up thinking they were cushions for the dinette version. Thanks for reminding me - I guess they will work on my boat! Maybe I'm losing my mind in my old age .....

Steve.

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Response Posted - 03/25/2002 : 16:41:48

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Duane,

You're right, I should not have used the term "bulkhead" so loosely like that. The six years I spent in the Navy still has me thinking that in a compartment there is a deck, overhead, and four bulkheads.

Don Lucier, Northstar
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I think alot of us wish our boats were that big....In my reply, I waivered thinking that there is essentially dead space behing that wall before you hit the hull...ergo it could be a bulkhead, kindof. What ship were you on?

DW

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 03/25/2002 : 19:10:17

I was on the Ticonderoga class Aegis guided missile cruiser, USS Mobile Bay CG-53. For a picture of the ship, just check out this website. http://www.mobile-bay.navy.mil/

If you go to the site, check out the photo on the mission page. I was on the ship when that photo was taken.

Don Lucier, Northstar
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Bristle
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Response Posted - 03/25/2002 : 22:20:03

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I think alot of us wish our boats were that big....In my reply, I waivered thinking that there is essentially dead space behing that wall before you hit the hull...ergo it could be a bulkhead, kindof. <hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>

How 'bout if we distinguish between a bulkhead (partition) and the hull liner? Of course, the liner actually includes the sole, settees, and the inside of the companionway bulkhead, so now I'm all confused... <img src=icon_smile_sad.gif border=0 align=middle>

Dave Bristle, 1985 C-25 SR-FK #5032 "Passage" in CT

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Response Posted - 03/26/2002 : 01:07:23

Okay, guys, so what do you call the interior on MY boat, Encore! Hull #685 SK/SR? It is not a dinette; my second "project" boat, Hull #496 has that! Encore! has a table on a pedestal that drops down to make a berth (I've converted to the full queen size athwartships option). The table can be dropped, or spun part way around on its pedestal, but will not fold up (I think I wish it could). The seating is L shaped on the portside with the short cushion against the bulkhead (not to be confused with a cabin liner!). I always thought it was a "traditional" interior, now I don't know what to call it. What is the right term for what I have? Thanks, Gary

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Response Posted - 03/26/2002 : 01:21:27

You have the other dinette style. It has kind of an L shaped seating right? My wife called it the "Breakfast Nook Dinette". I'm not sure when Catalina made this style but it seems to be more popular on the Jaguar boats. Catalina's sister boats. Anyone else have more info on those?

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Response Posted - 03/26/2002 : 10:52:39

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You have the other dinette style. It has kind of an L shaped seating right? My wife called it the "Breakfast Nook Dinette". I'm not sure when Catalina made this style but it seems to be more popular on the Jaguar boats. Catalina's sister boats. Anyone else have more info on those?
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The subject of interior layout came up this past January. I don't think we ever did figure out what to call this floorplan. Here are two other ideas from that thread:

Hi Buzz,

You have the same dinette arrangement we have on our '79, fixed keel. I think it is called an "L" dinette, but I wouldn't swear to it. It was apparently an option on the earlier model C-25s. I'm not sure when it was discontinued, but think it may have been in the early 80's. (I bet Bill Holcomb could tell us the exact year if he is listening).

George Seaborn C-25 #1190

My slip neighbor has a '78 with that layout. He calls it an earlier version of the "traditional interior".

RichardG 81 C25 SR/FK "Sanity" 

So, we've got at least three choices of what to call it ... does anybody know the real scoop?

Buzz Maring, C-25 SK/SR #68, "Freya"

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William Matley
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Response Posted - 03/27/2002 : 20:06:53

I don't know what to call the layout with the pedestal table mount and the "L" shaped seating but I have one also. It's a 1980 number 1730 with what seems to be a rare layout. I just thought it was someone at the factory's idea of a "concept" that never made the big time.

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Response Posted - 04/02/2002 : 20:36:33

I finally stumbled upon the third interior layout that you guys are talking about. I kind of like that interior. Anyway, here it is:

http://www.yachtworld.com/listing/yw_display_photo.jsp?boat_id=963256& boatname=25%27 Catalina Tall Rig& photo_name=Salon& photo=2

Don Lucier, Northstar
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Bill Holcomb
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Response Posted - 04/03/2002 : 09:59:14

Actually, you guys, the "L" shaped port side seat with pedistal table was the original Traditional interior. The Dinette interior features two facing seats with a table that attaches to the portside interior liner.

With the Dinette interior (similar to C22 interiors) the facing seats and table look much like a "booth" in any cafe. The table will come loose from the liner and fits on lips molded to the seats and thereby makes into a bed.

The original "L" shaped Traditional interior was replaced with a "new 'n improved" interior that featured a settee along the port side and a table that "folded" down, and attached to, the bulkhead between main saloon and the head. This table has a piano hinge so that the table can fold out serving the settee on the starboard side of the cabin for "family dining". This change from original Traditional interior option to "new" Traditional interior took place sometime in the early '80's. If you look in the brochures and manuals part of the website, page 25 and 26 (I think) show overhead views of all three interiors and the seat cushions involved.

Bill Holcomb - C25 Snickerdoodle #4839

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Response Posted - 04/12/2002 : 21:15:12

Hi Bill,

Knew you'd have the definitive answer. Thanks for sharing.

So, we have the "Original Traditional" ("L"-shaped Dinette);
the "New Traditional" (facing port and starboard settees with swingdown, bulkhead mounted table); and the "Dinette" (with thwartship facing benches and dropdown berth conversion table).

George Seaborn #1190

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