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Matt W
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Initially Posted - 01/15/2005 : 17:00:49

New member here. After purchasing my boat over a year ago and following these forums for so long, I figured it was time I also became a member. The information I have obtained from this forum has helped me in numerous ways and I would like to say thanks to everyone.

Moving on, maybe someone can provide me with some ideas on a motor mount. I recently tried to pull my mount off to replace the positioning arms and found that many things within my mount were either over stressed or too corroded to use. The mount I have currently only has one spring and is used to hold a 9.9 2-stroke yamaha. First things first, is one spring enough, and if so, is there a rebuild kit to replace all of the internal bushings with in the mount? Second, Should I simply move to a new mount with more springs? I don't use the motor all to often, and only leave it on the boat when I am planning an overnight cruise. Even with one spring I don't find it difficult to lift the engine through the different positions, but I did notice that some of the bolts and cross members were bent.

I know Catalina Direct offeres several motor mounts, but they are a little more than I am currently willing to spend. Any ideas and thoughts would be greatly appreciated.

"Fandango" ST/FK #2884

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 01/15/2005 : 18:53:55

Welcome to the forum, Matt!

Last winter I rebuilt my original, single spring, tubular Garhauer motor mount with a kit that I believe came from Garhauer. If I remember correctly, the kit cost $20.00 or so and came with new metal bushings and bolts...I think???..Can someone help jog my memory?

Anyway, if you simply need a rebuild of the old mount, call Garhauer for kit information. I believe someone here had Garhauer mount another spring on the upper arm to make raising easier. If you call Garhauer, ask them about that too if you are interested.

Again, welcome aboard.

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aeckhart
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Response Posted - 01/16/2005 : 15:28:07

Matt,

Please let us know what you find out from Garhauer. I have he old single spring mount which could use the repair kit and/or upgrade.

Al
GALLIVANT #5801

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ClamBeach
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Response Posted - 01/16/2005 : 18:04:15

Is your motor mount made of tubular stainless steel or is it
made from a combination of aluminum bar stock and angle shapes?
(these were found on very early Catalinas)

If it's one of the old aluminum mounts, take it off and throw
it away or scavenge the aluminum for future projects.

I recommend the new style "Garhauer" or "Garelick Offshore" mounts.
Both are quite robust, with the 'Offshore' mount being very
substantial (and also more boat units). For my part, I'm happy
with my Garhauer.

There are lots of threads online here about mounting them
and using proper sealant, backing/facing plates etc..

Matt, it's helpful if you put your boat year/sail number in your signature.
A lot of answers here may vary with the vintage of your boat.

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lcharlot
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Response Posted - 01/17/2005 : 10:22:07

The Garelick Offshore mount has one additional feature that the Garhauer doesn't: the motor mounting plate is wider, to accomodate the larger mounting brackets found on the new generation of "high thrust" 4-strokes. If you ever purchase a new Yamaha 8 or 9.9 HT outboard, you will find that the mount bracket is substantially larger than on the older outboards of the same horsepower, and most likely it will overhang the mount plate of a Garhauer or Fulton motor mount by an inch or so on each side. If it is a Power Tilt outboard, it will also overhang the mount vertically on the bottom, as this photo of my new Yamaha T8 shows:

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Matt W
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Response Posted - 01/18/2005 : 13:09:34

Thanks for the insight. I have still have a few questions. First, I believe my mount is the garelick (it is imprinted on the mounting board), will the mounting holes of the offshore model match with what I currently have? If not, will the Garhuer match to my mounting holes? I prefer to not have to drill through my transom in order to make this replacement.

Second, My boat's VIN# is CTK2884M82C. Maybe someone can tell me how to determine what my boat specifics are from that number. I believe I have standard rig (The mast measured 27' when I re-rigged last summer). Any other info is new to me.

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Matt W
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Response Posted - 01/18/2005 : 13:09:35

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 01/18/2005 : 13:17:54

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Matt W
 ...Second, My boat's VIN# is CTK2884M82C. Maybe someone can tell me how to determine what my boat specifics are from that number. I believe I have standard rig (The mast measured 27' when I re-rigged last summer). Any other info is new to me.
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

For the HIN (VIN is for vehicles

)

CTK = Catalina Yachts
2884 = Hull Serial Number (Sail Number 2884)
M82C = Date of Certification/Manufacture (October 1982)

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 01/18/2005 : 13:45:20

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Matt W
 First, I believe my mount is the Garelick (it is imprinted on the mounting board), will the mounting holes of the offshore model match with what I currently have? If not, will the Garhuer match to my mounting holes? I prefer to not have to drill through my transom in order to make this replacement...<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

Matt,

My tubular Garhauer motor mount has a black plastic Garelick mounting pad.

Garhauer Motor Mount

Garelick Mount Pad

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Matt W
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Response Posted - 01/18/2005 : 14:04:10

Thanks Don. That is almost the exact same setup I have except for the multiple spings. I was beginning to wonder, because the brackets on Garelick's website look completely different from what I have. I think I will call both companies and see which has the better setup for me.

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 01/18/2005 : 15:06:23

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Matt W
 Thanks Don. That is almost the exact same setup I have except for the multiple spings. I was beginning to wonder, because the brackets on Garelick's website look completely different from what I have. I think I will call both companies and see which has the better setup for me.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

You're welcome...and my motor mount also has only one spring.

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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 01/18/2005 : 15:51:59

I have the big dog Garelick, when I did this last winter, the new Garhauer was not finished yet. Now that it is done I would go with it. It was specifically designed for the 25, which has a very tall transom and therefore requires a lot of lift and drop in the mount. The Garelick has a lot of lift and almost no drop below horizontal.

Edited by - Frank Hopper on 01/18/2005 15:53:11

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