Association Forum - Comments requested about CD internal boom outhaul

Assn Members Area · Join

Home.

Association Forum

Ships Store

Cruising

Racing

Technical Tips

Photo Gallery - New

Boat Search - Updated

Manuals & Brochures

Swap Meet

Links

Officer Flag Line & Staff

Bylaws & Constitution

Members Area

Join the Association

Notice:
The advice given on this site is based upon individual or quoted experience, yours may differ.
The Officers, Staff and members of this site only provide information based upon the concept that anyone utilizing this information does so at their own risk and holds harmless all contributors to this site.

Association Forum

Username:	Password:
Save Password
Forgot your Password?

All Forums

Catalina/Capri 25/250 Sailor's Forums

General Sailing Forum

Comments requested about CD internal boom outhaul

New Topic

Topic Locked

Printer Friendly

Author

Topic

Gloss
Master Marine Consultant

Member Avatar

USA
1916 Posts

Initially Posted - 01/23/2005 : 11:03:08

Hi there,
I'm seriously considering the purchase of the Catalina Direct internal outhaul conversion kit. And also an Ullman full batten, double reefed, loose footed main. My perceived advantages of this system (CD outhaul) would be to keep the outside of the boom cleaner for single line reefing systems, topping lift adjustment, etc. My perceived main disadvantage would be in having blocks, etc. "internal" and therefore not easily gotten to for whatever reason. Of course you can always hook up a temporary outhaul, which is kinda sorta what I have now.
I wanna be able to have a well adjustable system for when the wind pipes up offshore. YEE HAA
Or should I have an external outhaul system?
I'm definitely leaning towards the internal system, even though it will be some work to cut out the square holes in the boom.
Thoughts, comments, jokes?
Thanks

Frank Gloss
Formerly 89WK/TR
85 Ericson 32-3 shoal draft "Molto Bene"

Edited by - on

lcharlot
Master Marine Consultant

Members Avatar

Antigua and Barbuda
1301 Posts

Response Posted - 01/23/2005 : 11:47:06

Is this internal outhaul similar in concept to an internal halyard? If so, then I'd say "go for it". Are all the exit blocks in the aft end of the boom? If you have to put an exit block near the gooseneck, then I would hesitate a little; the idea of cutting a big square hole in that highly stressed area near the gooseneck may not be a good idea. Althouh I guess they have them in the mast, for the internal halyards, and they don't seem to cause a problem there... Internal halyards have been used on Catalina 25's for a long time and they are just as reliable as the external systems. As for your new sail, I bought an Ullman full-batten, loose footed main last year, and it performs well. The full battens are really nice in light air. The only disadvantagevof the full battens is that you can't fold up or bag the sail without removing the battens. I handle this issue by just rolling the sail up like a big burrito with the battens still in it. It will fit in the back of my truck that way if I have to transport it.

Edited by - on

sbenson
Deckhand

Members Avatar

USA
12 Posts

Response Posted - 01/23/2005 : 14:25:25

I installed the system two seasons ago. This past year I had a new main with a loose foot and full battens except for bottom batten. Kit was high quality and easy to install. Holes were no big deal to put in. Only suggestion is a different locking machanism then the jam provided. Not only do you clean things up but you get an 8:1 purchase ratio. It's the only way to go to readily take advantage of the loose foot.

I'm adding a solid vang from Garhauer to further clean up the boom by eliminating the topping lift and pig tail on the backstay. More importantly it supports the boom when reefing. It disconnects easily to raise the pop top.

Edited by - on

aeckhart
Master Marine Consultant

Members Avatar

USA
1709 Posts

Response Posted - 01/24/2005 : 08:10:10

Frank,

I also installed the CD system. Like Larry, I found it to be of high quality and fairly easy to install. I had to shorten the internal wire rope however, as it was too long for the boom. I also agree with Larry that the rope clutch used to secure the line is not postive enough. It often slips. All-in-all this an excellent add-on for your boat.

Al
GALLIVANT #5801

Edited by - on

Gloss
Master Marine Consultant

Members Avatar

USA
1916 Posts

Response Posted - 01/24/2005 : 14:07:06

OK, so it looks like I'll get the CD internal outhaul system.
Al, when I call them, should I have the wire outhaul shortened? Do you know the correct length?
and where should I put the exit block? How far back from the gooseneck.
If the clam cleat is insufficient, then what should I get to dog off the line?
Or would line with the fuzzy cover work better? I can't imagine that stretch would be a factor in an 8:1 purchase for such a short length.

Edited by - on

aeckhart
Master Marine Consultant

Members Avatar

USA
1709 Posts

Response Posted - 01/24/2005 : 18:25:31

Frank,

Steve Bensen did not mention having to shorten his so I may have had a factory anomoly. If you do have to shorten the wire, it will become apparent if you lay it out next to the boom before you assemble. You should have some small nicro fixtures available to reform the loop. It was not a major issue since I only needed to take off about 5". I don't know the final length of the outhaul. As far as locating the various pins and exit blocks, just follow the instructions, everything else is good to go.

I would switch to a small cam clutch to secure the line portion of the outhaul. The instructions also suggest that you place the clutch over the companionway so it's out of the way. Before you cut the line make sure it's where you want it. In my opinion, the companioway is too far forward for a single-hander.

One other item before closing, try and keep tabs on where the four-part tackle system isinside the boom. If you have any long attachment screws in that area, the tackle will hang up on them. I had to shorten two screws.

Al
GALLIVNT #5801

Edited by - on

Topic

New Topic

Topic Locked

Printer Friendly

Jump To:

Association Forum

Notice: The advice given on this site is based upon individual or quoted experience, yours may differ.
The Officers, Staff and members of this site only provide information based upon the concept that anyone utilizing this information does so at their own risk and holds harmless all contributors to this site.