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Sell vs. keep extra main?

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Gloss
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Initially Posted - 02/18/2005 : 10:33:37

So here's the next thing to consider after arrival of my new Ullman mainsail.

Should I keep, or sell my standard stock mainsail? It's in very good shape and has lots of good sailing in it. I doubt I will ever use it again after I get a new loose footed full batten (I can feel the wind gust power surges now-what a great mental image)

What's a decent shape used main going for these days? Would it be worth keeping as a backup if I ever need to get the new sail serviced?

Frank Gloss
Formerly 89WK/TR
85 Ericson 32-3 shoal draft "Molto Bene"

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Sloop Smitten
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Response Posted - 02/18/2005 : 10:45:56

Frank,
Sell it and use the money to treat yourself to another present.

Don't be a packrat.
Joe

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aeckhart
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Response Posted - 02/18/2005 : 11:10:36

Frank,

If you have hank-on head sails, maybe you should see about having it cut down to a small working jib such as the 60% I just sold to Jim Baumgart. It's a great sail for balancing your rig with second reef.

If not, I'm with Joe. If it's in good shape you could problably get $80 to $100 for it. Half the price of a hand-held GPS, FM radio, that solar panel you've always wanted????

Al
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coach
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Response Posted - 02/18/2005 : 12:18:10

Sell it. Or if it is like my old main...cut it up and make hand bags out of it.

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matsche
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Response Posted - 02/18/2005 : 12:56:24

Keep it! (the lone voice of dissent). If/when you ever need to send off your Ullman for cleaning/repair/modification, you can keep sailing. You're not likely to get a lot for the old sail anyway. $100 maybe? Cheap sailing insurance if you ask me.

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At Ease
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Response Posted - 02/18/2005 : 12:58:57

You answered your own question: "I doubt I will ever use it again"

It will just take up space either on the boat or at home.

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 02/18/2005 : 12:59:42

I sold my old main, which was in decent shape, for $125.00 because I didn't have any need to keep a spare.

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Gloss
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Response Posted - 02/18/2005 : 13:29:31

If I'm only going to get 100 to 125 for my really decent shape old main, then I'll keep it for when I have to send in the new one.

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Sloop Smitten
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Response Posted - 02/18/2005 : 13:42:30

Frank,
My rule of thumb when using Ebay is never pay more than half the new price for a used item. If the main is in very good shape it should be worth more than $100. Ought to bring around half the price of a new one. $250 - 300. If you can't get that maybe you should hold on to it.
Joe

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mwalkup
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Response Posted - 02/18/2005 : 14:31:28

Mr. Gloss
I could use a main in really decent shape.
I do believe your talking about a tall rig are you not?
If so, may I be the first to offer you that $100.

Your reputation here it seems is sterling so I would bet it is indeed in good shape.
Let me know.
Mike

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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 02/18/2005 : 16:56:45

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by mwalkup
 Mr. Gloss
Your reputation here it seems is sterling...
Mike
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uhh...

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Gloss
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Response Posted - 02/19/2005 : 08:01:45

Sterling reputation?

Must be from when I stole the silverware from the cafeteria back in school (remember those days? I don't)

I'll watch the for sale page and see what mains go for. If I could only get 100-150, I'll keep it. For 250 bucks I would consider selling it. I just know that someday in the future I'll be sending in the sail to Sailcare, or back to Ullman for patching, or whatever, and might want a spare.

You know, an old sail just might make for a interesting tarp for a back deck/patio sun cover. Kinda artsy.

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mwalkup
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Response Posted - 02/19/2005 : 10:04:40

Just curious, how old is this main we're speaking of?
It is for a tall rig right. You got my interest darn it.

Ya know horse tradings a funny thing. Do you buy a horse with a few good years left in her. Or hold out for a brand spankin'new filly.

I guess it's all about the duck's

$250. seems a high but of course I have not seen the sail.
How's one fifty sound sir?

Really now a tarp for the backyard, I'm sure the missus will be ecstatic..
mike

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oldsalt
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Response Posted - 02/19/2005 : 10:57:37

I've been sailing Silver Girl since '83 and never did need to keep a spare mainsail around so I would sell it if I were you and buy something new for the boat. But this advice is coming frome someone who keeps a spare 9.9 hp Evinrude Yachtwin outboard in his shed.

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mwalkup
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Response Posted - 02/19/2005 : 12:10:51

Hi Mark,
I've seen your postings here the last couple of years, because of the fact that I too have an 83 lead fin keel tall rig Idle Hour.
Purchased her three years ago outside of one of my favorite cities Annapolis Md. Hull numb. if I'm not mistaken 3526. Brought her down to ol' N.C. State.

I think it's pretty awesome you've had your boat new since 1983.
Thats great. Silver Girl looks like a nice one.

Mike Walkup

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oldsalt
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Response Posted - 02/21/2005 : 12:06:49

Thanks Mike, since I custom ordered Silver Girl new in '83 I've never regreted the decision. She suits my purposes which are mostly daysailing and overnighting with the occassional offshore passage to places like Block Island made in the company of a flotilla consisting of a few Catalina 25s, 30s and an older Hunter 33 who all pace their speed to keep the fleet together.

With sufficient maintenance and cleaning, the Catalina 25s will go on forever and a season doesn't go by that someone doesn't pass by Silver Girl at her slip and asks me if she is new. There isn't a spot of corrosion on any of the original hardware or lifeline stantions (except the cheap pot metal hinges on the anchor locker), nor a single blister.

I still look back at her every time I leave her at her slip after a day on the water.

When I want a "big boat" experience, I charter with Sunsail in the Carribean, and let them worry about the maintenance of a 46 footer.

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gerardben
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Response Posted - 02/21/2005 : 21:52:40

Getting into the discussion kinda late, but I have an old sail, standard rig and a brand new, Neil-Pryde, C25 tall rig sail,purchased at the Annapolis show last year.only to discover that I have a FK SR (won't make that mistake again) so the Tall Rig sail is for sale. Paid $800. Will take offers. Any offers?

Gerardben, Grenadier,'83 FK SR, fin keel, #3639

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mwalkup
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Response Posted - 02/21/2005 : 23:09:40

Mark,
So you're on the waters of the northeast. Block Island, famous sailing waters off of Rhode Island if memory serves. Thats sailing history there. I can only dream. Is that your homeport or is it somewhere close by.

Like a fine woman that one has the pleasure of knowing once or twice in a lifetime, you must know your boat inside and out,and back again.

I have to commend you on your diligent care and up-keep of your boat since 1983. I'm the third owner of my Catalina 83-25, and I know alittle about the pride of ownership, having owned an 87 325 bmw that I enjoy driving as much now, if not more, than when I bought her new.

Without going off on a biographical tangent here, I was taught the basics of sailing by my younger sister on the coast of North Carolina where I grew up. Small boats, nothing very large and unfortunatly I did'nt stay with it.

Then years later, lets say thirty, after playing week-end soccer and golf poorly, I wanted to do some of the other things that brought me so much fun all those years ago. Can most guys relate, I think so.
Anyway I bought me a new 9" surfboard from an old friend that owns a surfshop, surfed all over again, still get stoked about it and thought about sailing.

Catalina 22's & 25's were the sailing boat of choice on our lake here in the peidmont, so I became interested and did some research, was impressed with their history, and many fans. A good solid utility boat if ever there was one.

Still not sure if I wanted to make a such a financial/time commitment, kind of like buying a good dog, you know if you make that kind of a commitment it's liable to be for a long time. So I took a wonderful week long sailing course from the Annapolis Sailing School to help me decide. And did it ever, as most here can attest the water and wind can sweep down and take you in a minute, from the inside out.

Three weeks later I went back to Annapolis and bought my boat, and brought her down south to North Carolina. Renamed her Idle Hour, and have only grown to value her more from day to day, kinda strange, kinda funny. You know what I mean. I'm sure you do.

My next step has to be the coast again, and all it's unknown challenges. I envy yall's stories of sailing the sea . A lake can only suffice for so long, still any water is better than no water, and I'm happy for now with it.

So thats my testimonial and I'm sticking with it.
Nice to make your acquaintance Mark, and everyone else here that dig these noble little boats of ours.
Mike, Idle Hour,83,tall rig, fin keel #3526

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mwalkup
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Response Posted - 02/21/2005 : 23:54:18

Gerard,
Really now, you have a brand NEW tall rig main.

I really didn't want to be in the market for anything else, especially since I just purchased a new Tohatsu motor, but I had to read Mr Gloss's post. He never did, I might add respond to my respectable offer. Maybe he's using his new mainsail, as we speak.

Have you not tried selling it before now. I have no clue what it's worth but it's probably more than I can spend at this time unfortunately.
What would you let her go for, any idea? That way I'd know if I could even consider it or not.

While some members here might not think this is the forum to trade boat units on, hey we're Newbes.
I apologize in advance if that be the case.

O.k. so how much?
Mike

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gerardben
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Response Posted - 02/22/2005 : 09:28:58

Mike, I'll take $600, and I'll pay the UPS charges to ship from San Antonio, Tx to N.C. Sail has the Catalina 25 logo, but no hull numbers. Comes with sail bag, battens, 1 reef point, 5.6 oz Contender fabric.You can get sail(hull)numbers from Neil-Pryde sail or some other source.
Gerry

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mwalkup
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Response Posted - 02/22/2005 : 13:36:06

Gerard,
I'm not familiar with the Neil-Pryde brand.Is it top shelf or something

The mainsail from Catalina Direct I saw awhile back, I thought was in the $700. range.
Sorry six hundred dollars is outside my relm of possibilities right now.

I do wonder if your sail would fit my tall rig as well.I know what you mean about not wanting to make that mistake.

Keep me in mind if you don't get an offer you want, but you really want to move it.
Thanks,
Mike

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Gloss
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Response Posted - 02/22/2005 : 17:11:17

Hey Mike,
I thought that I said in an earlier post that if I could only get 100 or 150 for my main, I'll just keep it.

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mwalkup
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Response Posted - 02/22/2005 : 20:21:44

Hey Frank,
If I may call you Frank.
You deed indeed say that, and I was making you an offer.

I wasn't quite sure how serious you were about keeping it.
Now I know. No offence.

Mike Walkup
83 fk/tr

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gerardben
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Response Posted - 02/23/2005 : 08:25:04

Mike, Neil-Pryde is a top line sail supplier. I'm offering my new sail at 25% less than I paid for it. It's a good deal.

gerry
83 fk sm

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mwalkup
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Response Posted - 02/24/2005 : 14:38:57

Gerard,

It's like my dear old Daddy use to say "Son these good deals are killing me"

My reality here Gerard, is that I had $2500. dollars saved for my new motor, it ran me $1900. because I got it on sale, then I found out I had to replace the motor mount to the tune of $235.

The best I can do at this time is $400. plus ups charge. Now I know thats less than you'll take, but thats what I got.

I just wanted to give you the courtesy of a reply.

Mike Walkup
83 fk/tr

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