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johnsonp
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Initially Posted - 02/23/2005 : 19:32:33

Good afternoon,
For a 2004 Catalina 250wk,does a manual or operating instructions for the propane stove come separately? The Catalina manual I have shows nothing about the propane stove.
paulj

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Tom Potter
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Response Posted - 02/23/2005 : 20:23:06

I have a Seaward Princess single burner propane stove. No documentation came with mine either. I did a search using "Google" and "Froogle" and found some info. I would have never known about the stoves electric starter if not for Google.

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frog0911
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Response Posted - 02/23/2005 : 23:40:25

I had two separate manuals that came with our boat. One for the stove and one for the tank. Inclosed with them were some additional sheets that had to do with the wiring of the switch and installation manual for the automatic solenoid.
I don't remember were they were located, but they were in a separate package. There was also a small package with spare parts and a copper key for adjustment of gas flow to get the proper size flame.
If you did not get them you might try EM to www.seawardproducts.com

Edited by - frog0911 on 02/23/2005 23:45:56

Ben - FL
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Response Posted - 02/24/2005 : 17:02:23

My stove keeps flaming out when half throttle or less. Does your manual say anything about how to fix that? It is very annoying 'cause I worry about the fumes. I took the burner apart and it is quite clean.

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Northlander
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Response Posted - 02/24/2005 : 17:16:11

Hello...longtime lurker first time poster...

Did you guys hook up the ignitor yourselves or did it come that way?

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Tom Potter
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Response Posted - 02/24/2005 : 18:34:55

Mine came that way, built into the stove on/off knob. Its wired into the main switch panel (not labeled I might add) mine was wired to the top accessory switch. That switch must be on to use it, then press the flame adjusting knob down to activate the igniter. Of course you have to do all the other stuff like open the propane tank and switch safety valve on and open the on/off knob to get the gas coming before it will light.

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Ray Seitz
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Response Posted - 02/26/2005 : 13:40:43

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">My stove keeps flaming out when half throttle or less. Does your manual say anything about how to fix that? It is very annoying 'cause I worry about the fumes.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">
Ben I think the gas shuts off auto when it flames out like that. My stove does that also. I can't check my manual until next visit to the boat, as I leave it on the boat.

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frog0911
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Response Posted - 02/28/2005 : 23:39:16

Ben, I can't find anything in the manuals that talk about mid flame blowout except that it says to clean the solenoid valve once a year. They do also explain that it could fail to open completely resulting in low pressure. This could cause you to only be able to run it with the stove valve completely open. Just a guess since there is no trouble shooting guide in any of the manuals or additional pages.

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Ben - FL
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Response Posted - 03/01/2005 : 21:02:37

I've seen the solenoid but never thought about cleaning it. I'll take a gander at it next time I'm out.

Damn, forgot to shake the fire extinguishers again.

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528
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Response Posted - 03/01/2005 : 21:55:30

We use the stove quite a bit. I use the small propane tanks directly connected to the unit. (yes, I know the downside) My experience is that it doesn't take much of a breeze to put the burner out anywhere below 1/2 throttle. The solenoid may not be the cause. I use a cutting board on edge to sheild the burner from the companionway. Hope this helps. We have gone almost exclusively to a pressure cooker with great results. Most things cooked for 20 minutes or less and then let the pressure drop through cooling. Chicken, pork, potatoes, rice etc, tender, tender. Results were so good we bought one for the house. Make sure you go stainless, easy to clean, no rust.

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cathluk
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Response Posted - 03/02/2005 : 18:36:27

Another thing to consider:

Our experience is mainly with the butane version of the stove and some camping appliances. When the fuel canisters get cold they can fail to produce sufficient pressure to keep the appliance lit. This is especially true of small containers that cool quickly due to the expansion of the gas from the pressurized cylinder to the appliance. Our solution is to place the fuel cylinders (1 lb) in the bottom of our sleeping bags so that they work properly in the morning.

If your have a larger built in cylinder you can try heating it with a hot water bottle or by pouring hot water on it.

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Ben - FL
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Response Posted - 03/02/2005 : 18:44:04

I used to use a pressure cooker all the time. Then I got married. Now I've all but forgot how to cook.

The one I still have is too big for the sailboat. I'll have to find a smaller one. On the other hand, I need a bigger fry pan. The bacon hangs over the edge of the one I have on board.

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Tom Potter
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Response Posted - 03/02/2005 : 19:00:19

yum... BACON!

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paulb
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Response Posted - 03/18/2005 : 23:28:59

I just replaced my seaward propane stove with an Origo 1500 the same type I have used on my other boat for years with complete safety and success.

The Seaward stove came on the boat, and the previous owner said he never used it. It is of the igniter type and when I pulled it out it said "for use with Butane only" on the underside of the stove even though it had instrudtions above the stove which were for "propane only". Who knows??

If anyone wants this stove they are welome to it...I will ship for costs only...no guarantees.

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Steve Raffel
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Response Posted - 03/19/2005 : 13:42:31

I too recently took my Seward propane stove out. My concern was the safety of the whole thing and the desire to get the tank out of the cockpit locker so I could use that space.

I ordered the Origo 2000 because I was afraid that the 1500 would sit too high. The other thing was I didn't know what to do with the whole in the counter where the old stove sat. I am still waiting for the new stove to arrive. How did the installation work?

It also will require moving the water faucet from the left to the right. I will also have to change the faucet to the type found in the head due to space limitations.

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bear
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Response Posted - 03/19/2005 : 14:20:32

My former stove along with all the hookups is setting in a box in the cellar. The butane cannisters were disposed of I/A/W/ local disposal procedures. The hole is covered with a beautiful breadboard now. We have used the single burner Coleman stove for what gas cooking we do. Never trusted the butane setup. Also have electricty at the slip for whatever else.

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paulb
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Response Posted - 03/22/2005 : 01:09:23

I slightly enlarged the hole on the forward side where the old stove was, covered the bottom from the underside with a piece of 1/4in. plywood, creating a 1/2 dropdown spot for the Origo 1500. I used a piece of Corian left over from a kitchen countertop to cover the counter and cut an opening the same size as the "modified" stove dropdown making the dropdown for the stove to about 1 in., which is perfect for holding the Origo stove in place while still retaining access to the refill canister. I also used a piece of the same Corian to make a cover/cutting board over the sink.

I drilled a hole through the Corian in the existing location for the Whale pump, then drilled a hole in the right side for the 12 volt faucet and pump for those big fillups of water.

Did I mention that last week I installed a 12 gallon water tank under the v-berth with an external fill?

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Steve Raffel
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Response Posted - 03/22/2005 : 22:21:12

Paul, that sounds like a great installation. How about a picture?

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