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Bruce Ebling
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Initially Posted - 03/05/2005 : 16:19:50

Hello everyone!
I just thought I would drop you a line and send a photo of my new Cape Dory 25D. I will miss my Catalina, after all I sailed Catalina's for the past 20 years. As you may know we are in a "no water" situation here in Eugene, OR so it may be a while until I can test my new boat, but in the meantime I will be making some improvements and repairs. Thanks to everyone for being so helpful and informative with all of my Catalina questions.
Fair Winds;
Bruce Ebling

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Buzz Maring
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Response Posted - 03/05/2005 : 16:28:36

Hi Bruce,

WOW ... she's a beauty!

Do you have any interior pics?

BTW, just 'cause you've got a Cape Dory doesn't mean you can't stick around here ... why don't you stay? I'm sure I'm not the only one who would be interested in seeing upgrades and fixes to your new boat ... after all, sailboats have a lot of things in common.

Congratulations!

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aeckhart
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Response Posted - 03/05/2005 : 17:12:20

Bruce,

Nice boat. I race regularly against a Cape Dory 25. He's my closest competition during our club regattas. If handled properly she's fast.
Not quite as fast my TR but, if I make a mistake she can take me.

Al
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Gloss
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Response Posted - 03/05/2005 : 17:49:04

Hey Bruce,
We will be following your progress in the Trans-Pac

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Bruce Ebling
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Response Posted - 03/05/2005 : 18:10:53

Buzz: Attached is a shot of the interior. It has a pullout bunk on starboard. There is no v berth, it is all taken up by the head and shower. There is also storage ahead of the head. There is standing headroom in the entire boat for my 5'-10". The boat is a 1982 model, that weighs 5120lbs, draft of 3'-10" and powered by a Yanmar 1GM (7.5hp)
Bruce

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At Ease
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Response Posted - 03/05/2005 : 18:42:15

No need to leave the forum. As previously stated, and you know, there are a lot of generic sailboat topics cussed and discussed.

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John V.
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Response Posted - 03/06/2005 : 00:54:53

My dad and I bought a Cape Dory 25 in 1976 and sailed it for 12 years.
For part of that time I was still in college and didn't get a lot of time off for sailing but enjoyed the boat "Spirted Sprig". What a great boat. The CD25 with full keel and Alberg inspired design was very seaworthy and was great in punching through the steep short frequency waves of the North Channel. Good luck with the new boat Bruce.

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matsche
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Response Posted - 03/06/2005 : 06:10:39

The Cape Dory 25D is at the top of my list as a "next boat" prospect, as well as the Contessa 26 and Folkboat which are all very similar designs. I want to chime in with Buzz & Bert and say "stick around"! Would love to hear about your experiences with her, especially from your Catalina 25 background.

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ClamBeach
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Response Posted - 03/06/2005 : 10:31:35

"...you may know we are in a "no water" situation here in Eugene..."

Heck, Bruce... you're only 1-1/2 hours from Coos Bay via Drain... easy tow, no hills. Only spooky part would be the tunnel, but all the big rigs go through it, so can your boat. There should be some nice summer sailing off the coast there... with Salmon and Albacore fishing to boot. Florence is a quick hop over too.

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Bruce Ebling
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Response Posted - 03/06/2005 : 11:01:16

Bruce: I am actually considering Newport. I have a friend there with a Crealock 34. I am just a little nervous taking a new boat that I have never sailed or rigged to a place with currents and an ocean setting. I am pouring over all of the manuals and going over and over the boat to get familiar with all of the systems. Also my 1/2 ton pickup is not quite up to the task of towing my new boat. Our lake is supposed to be filled next year, so I may just wait till then. I will just take it day by day and see what happens. I am just thrilled to have the boat of my dreams in my driveway. Today I just finished mowing the lawn and afterwards I set a chair out in the lawn and just stared at her...I have been truly blessed.
Bruce Ebling

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tinob
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Response Posted - 03/06/2005 : 11:16:15

Best of everything with the new boat Bruce, she's a beaut in and out; and a trailer to boot. Who's better than you?

Val on the hard DAGNABIT

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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 03/06/2005 : 11:32:06

A real step up, nicely done. And the people who got your old boat are damn lucky too.

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jtbarrett
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Response Posted - 03/06/2005 : 13:49:03

Currently my father owns a cape dory 25d. So there is his and my catalina at our dock with plans for a cal 20 from a kawanis auction that our marina has every year. I believe there were only a few 25d's made (153). Just last year he upgraded the moter and put a yamar 2 cyl diesel. Which in turn seems to make it more enjoyable (less shakey) when not sailing. Anyway very good and stable (heavy) boat. I love the huge head with shower instead of a vberth. I am tall so I usually sleep on a settee on my cat25. Good luck with the boat and if you need any suggestions or answers I can pass them along to him..
Fair Winds..Jonathan T Barrett
'82 SR SK #3047
Rappahanock/Chesapeake Bay

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Bruce Ebling
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Response Posted - 03/06/2005 : 14:40:10

Jonathan: That is so cool that you have both a Catalina 25 and the Cape Dory 25D! I would love any details of the conversion to the Yanmar 2cyl. I have heard the single cylinder (1GM) can be pretty shakey. I have also that they will last forever. Right now I am considering replacing the head with a composting toilet. The plumbing the way it is now has the discharge from the head run the length of the boat to a built in holding tank just ahead of the engine. I would love to eliminate such a long run of sewage line. I will also be re-finishing the cockpit boards and re-sealing all of the stanchions and deck hardware to prevent any water getting to the balsa core. I am sure as time goes on and I get more familiar with the boat I will find many, many upgrades and fixes to do.
Thanks
Bruce Ebling
1982 CD25D

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ClamBeach
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Response Posted - 03/06/2005 : 14:43:17

>>"I am just thrilled to have the boat of my dreams in my driveway. Today I just finished mowing >> the lawn and afterwards I set a chair out in the lawn and just stared at her..."

:>) :>) :>)

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Response Posted - 03/06/2005 : 18:50:21

I fell in love with the 25D back when it first came out, but it was way too "dear" for me at that point. With that forward head/shower, it's about the nicest small cruiser for a couple that I've seen, and I love all Alberg designs. (The Cape Dory 25 is not an Alberg design, but most other CD's are, including the 25D and 26.) I almost bought a used 26, which is very similar to the 25D but with an outboard in a lazarette, a v-berth, and a head not unlike the Catalina 25's. I picked the Catalina in large part because it could maneuver (backwards) into my very tight slip better than the full-keeled CD-26 where you can't really turn the outboard. CDs have a very nice motion in big chop, and track very well in following seas.

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Mark Loyacano
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Response Posted - 03/06/2005 : 20:01:21

Voyager 26 on the left - Nor Sea 27 on the right

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stampeder
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Response Posted - 03/07/2005 : 04:00:44

Bruce - I think we'd all benefit hearing a capable perspective from a similar sized boat.

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ChrisDara
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Response Posted - 03/07/2005 : 21:46:25

She sure is pretty. Good luck!

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Gary B.
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Response Posted - 03/09/2005 : 04:25:21

Nice looking cruiser, Bruce. Maybe you will consider the Columbia River. Not so far, and you can go a LONG ways up or down river, over the bar, up/down the coast, etc.

Frankly, while this is a 25' all right, it is not COMPARABLE to a Cat 25, IMHO. By this I mean it's a LOT more boat in weight, and quality of construction. BUT, I suspect she's somewhat slower, harder to trailer and ramp launch and probably MUCH more spendy. She's designed to be used differently than the trailerable Cat 25.

I like the boat a LOT, but , again IMHO, her strengths are not the same as the Cat. I think it would be unfair to compare them boat for boat.

Gary B.
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Bruce Ebling
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Response Posted - 03/09/2005 : 19:23:33

Gary:The boat weight is about 1000lbs more which is significant. She only draws 3'-6" and will ramp launch easier than my fin keel 25 did. I am sure she will be a bit slower. You just have to keep in mind the use I want for the boat. I want to sail her here at Fern Ridge (being only 15 minutes from the lake) then take her to the sound each summer. After I retire (5 years) then I plan to circumnavigate Vancouver Island and sail her to Alaska. I believe, for my purposed she will do just fine. I towed the boat home and did not find it any harder to pull than my old boat (but with a 3/4 ton this time). I love the standing head room and the overall quality of the boat. Don't get me wrong I have sailed Catalinas my entire sailing life and I love them and know them intimately but for me this boat really rings my bell!
Bruce

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Charlie Vick
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Response Posted - 03/09/2005 : 21:55:38

Bruce, she is a beauty. Whether she's slower or faster than a C25 doesn't matter, she sails, and probably very well by her looks.
If she melts your butter thats all that matters.
I love my 25 but I know someday I'll be moving on.
Congratulations on your new found love.
I hope you can find some water to put her in soon.
It would drive me crazy to buy a new sailboat and not be able to immediatly sail her!
You have more patience than I.
And please show us more pictures!
Fair winds and calm seas!
Or wherever you find to sail her.

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Steve Milby
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Response Posted - 03/10/2005 : 10:49:05

We used to have a member and former C25 owner who lived in Washington named Ken Cave, who bought a Cape Dory 28, and praised it's seakeeping abilities. He said she had good speed as long as you kept her underwater surfaces clean and smooth, and, when it got rough, his C30 and Ericson 28 friends couldn't keep pace with her and had a much rougher ride. It sounds like a great choice for your planned use and sailing venue.

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seastream
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Response Posted - 03/11/2005 : 07:37:43

My dad still keeps an '84 CD 28 on the Metedeconk river in NJ. Excellent boats, very good for blue water. He wants me to buy it, but we're looking for something a bit bigger and we can't give him what it's truly worth at this time anyway. Good luck with yours!

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