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John V.
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Initially Posted - 03/30/2005 : 08:49:41

I thought I would share a view rarely seen by lake sailors. A deep sounding.

Frankly I was surprised that the signet would get a return from that depth but the chart confirmed the sounding.
This might be interesting to you Arlyn, since you are going to be sailing up here this summer. The sounding above was taken on the crossing from Isle Royal to Grand Portage MN. There is a point about 50 miles east of Isle Royal where the chart shows 1200 ft. That explains why Superior holds 10% of the entire world's fresh water.

John V.
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megrier
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Response Posted - 03/30/2005 : 08:58:40

Cute Baby!

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 03/30/2005 : 11:15:02

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by John V.
 I thought I would share a view rarely seen by lake sailors. A deep sounding...There is a point about 50 miles east of Isle Royal where the chart shows 1200 ft. That explains why Superior holds 10% of the entire world's fresh water.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

Just don't drop you keys over the side.

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aeckhart
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Response Posted - 03/30/2005 : 12:09:56

Lake Superior is not only deep, it's cold, thick, thick fog, and generates some wicked storms with nasty chop. The water is also very clear. You can often see the bottom 30 feet down. It is the wise sailor who checks the weather reports before departure and a weather eye peeled for unexpected squals. It's a great sailing area though.

Al
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John V.
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Response Posted - 03/30/2005 : 12:48:10

Hey Al,

I thought this one would get a response from you. Amen to all you said. Keeping a weather eye is paramount since the distances are great and the harbors are few. I had been meaning to post this for some time, and since it's spring break I have a little time.
The thing that suprised me most was that the Signet made the sounding well beyond its published range.

I'm solving the problem of having more instruments on the bulkhead by removing the signet and the humminbird, closing all the holes in the cabin bulkhead and building a false bulkhead for all the instruments including the new chart plotter. I'm doing a series of photos which I'll publish when the project is done.

looking forward to the June cruise, let me know when we need to do final details.

Edited by - John V. on 03/30/2005 16:17:08

Arlyn Stewart
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Response Posted - 03/30/2005 : 14:38:23

My sounder screen goes blank above 300 hundred feet as it is only a 5 watt sounder... but that is one of the reasons I chose the Garmin 125 gps/sounder... draw is about 400 mw total for both functions.

Garmin's 600 ft sounder only, draws double that at 800 mw and their 185 gpsmap/sounder draws a whopping 1.25 amps.

Current draw is probably no big deal for most sailors, but if cruising for several weeks at a time aboard a trailer sailor with an outboard and doing no shore charging, then a low power base gps/sounder is appreciated. If there is any question as to anchoring security, I leave the sounder going with the anchor alarm on.

I do not anchor in anything too deep for my sounder to record

Edited by - Arlyn Stewart on 03/30/2005 14:39:54

aeckhart
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Response Posted - 03/30/2005 : 15:51:43

John,

I'm firing off instructions to my crew this week. I am very flexible in the summer as I do not work until 1 August. My boat will be in the water ready to go when you get here. How about you set the schedule. We want to work with Arlyn though. He is adjusting his schedule to accomodate a day or two of sailing with us to Copper Harbor before going to Isle Royale and points beyond. I believe he's thinking arrival on 22 June, departure 23 or 24 June.

As a side note, I installed the Magellan software I told you about. It was a firmware update which converted it to v.1.24. Does that jive with your system?

Also, my Standard Horizon depth sounder drops off the screen at 999 in places in Keweenaw Bay. In a way I'm kind of sad for all those sailors who aren't able to enjoy our Great Lakes - despite the winters.

Al
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John V.
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Response Posted - 03/30/2005 : 16:32:31

I share your feeling about how much I believe others in our forum would enjoy sailing these waters. I dropped a note to Spike about how a cruising group could be formed under the association. (no reply yet) What do you think about forming "the Upper Lakes Cruising Group"? Not a fleet, no racing, but an opportunity to share planned cruises with anyone in the association that would like to see the beauty of Superior and the North Channel. Being on Neebish most of the summer I could certainly be a resource in planning.

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 03/30/2005 : 16:58:47

To all that are going on this trip, take good notes...I would love to see a nice article (with pictures) in the Mainsheet!

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aeckhart
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Response Posted - 03/31/2005 : 11:39:27

John,

I was just talking to a long-time friend and crew person about a possible cruise next year in the North Channel. Might be a good inaugeral trip for the "Upper Lakes Cruising Association". Perhaps "Great Lakes" rather than "Upper". We don't what to deny anyone an opportunity to join in the fun. I think we should talk more about this idea. Would this be an all Catalina club? My yacht club has been trying for years to generate interest in cruising rather than racing all the time. This may be an opportunity for a few of our adventurous members. I'll email you.

Al
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John G-
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Response Posted - 03/31/2005 : 11:56:42

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by dlucier
 To all that are going on this trip, take good notes...I would love to see a nice article (with pictures) in the Mainsheet!

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Indeed, please keep logs and take good photos. A cruising story that combines trailer sailing and owners from different parts of the country would be great.

I certainly believe there is room in the association for “Cruising Groups”. We have an under used [url="http://www.catalina25-250.org/cruising/cruise.htm"]C25/C250 Cruising page [/url] on our web site. I think cruising groups could be casual and come together for just one cruise or form as a permanent groups that promote cruising in local waters. It’s a great idea.

[url="jg949@hotmail.com"]John Gisondi[/url]
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Underlined words are a HOT link.

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Steve Milby
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Response Posted - 03/31/2005 : 13:57:54

FWIW, fleets can be formed for any type of sailing activity. A fleet doesn't have to conduct races. You can have a fleet for cruisers, or just for social activities, for that matter. The national association doesn't tell the fleets what activities they have to sponsor.

The C25 fleet at my lake is now defunct, but we even had a couple of members who didn't own Catalinas. They just liked to hang with us. They were called "Associate Members." They had to pay our local fleet's dues, and were entitled to participate in all our local activities, but they obviously didn't have to join the national association.

Edited by - Steve Milby on 03/31/2005 13:59:23

John V.
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Response Posted - 03/31/2005 : 20:38:55

Hey John, We will definatley keep a good log of the trip and will do a piece for you. Gracie will be crew again as well as Jake the young man who has been my other crew since he was in the fifth grade. that's when the Big Brothers association matched us and he has in the last 7 years become a fine sailor. Al may have some of his club members along as well as Arlyn Stewart. Pretty broad group. I like the idea of a loosely formed cruising group. The only reason I said upper lakes is because there are already groups in the lower lakes.

I can't be certain but isn't there a fleet or group at lake Macatawa in Holland MI. I was figuring that since several of us already gravitate towards the NC and Lake Superior that an upper lakes group might be a good designation.

I'm certainly heartened by all the interest. It's funny what will generate a good conversation here. BTW I had a great meeting last evening with the guy who manufactures the Airhead composting marine toilet.. He brought a model over to the shop and I took a lot of pictures which I'll be posting soon. It's very compact and would fit in a C25 without a problem. They are made here in Mount Vernon OH, my winter home.

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