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John G-
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Initially Posted - 04/12/2005 :  09:19:10  Show Profile  Visit John G-'s Homepage
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Bill Holcomb, I was looking at your tech tip on [url="http://www.catalina25-250.org/tech/tech25/tt023.html"]Snickerdoodle’s bow roller. [/url] I would like to add one next week before I splash.
Could you answer a couple of questions?
Why use the AR-3 instead of the AR-2?
Were you able to line it up straight or did you have to angle it?
Do you have a photo looking straight down on it so we could see the relationship of the roller to the stem fitting?
Any other tips when ordering and installing?
Thanks

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Response Posted - 04/12/2005 :  11:10:48  Show Profile
Hi John,

The reason that I used the AR3 is that one of the C27 skippers a couple slips from me was upgrading to one of the new stem fittings from Catalina that has the roller built in. He took the one-year old AR3 off and sold it to me for little or nothing. Could you use an AR2? Probably. But, the base on the AR2 is a lot shorter and you don't get the line keeper pin that you get on the AR3. When weighing anchor, if you have let out much scope the keeper pin is a real help keeping the anchor line on the roller.

The roller is almost parallel the center line - but slightly (a few degrees) off due to having to work around the existing stem fitting and bow pulpit bases. Sorry, I don't have a verticle photo.

Bill Holcomb - C25 Snickerdoodle #4839

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Ben
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Response Posted - 04/12/2005 :  16:07:40  Show Profile
John G,

FWIW, I installed the AR3 roller on my boat and love it. Bill's right about the keeper pin. It is a nice feature to have.


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Response Posted - 04/13/2005 :  08:07:32  Show Profile  Visit aeckhart's Homepage
Who makes the AR3? Is it better than the stem head-roller fitting offered bby Catalina Direct?

Al
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Response Posted - 04/13/2005 :  08:34:09  Show Profile  Visit John G-'s Homepage
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Thanks Bill.
Ben, any issues to think about when installing?
Al, [url="http://www.windline.com/"]Windline [/url] makes the bow roller. I am thinking about installing one because it doesn’t entail removing the stem fitting. I’m not sure it’s better it just doesn’t require opening a can of worms so to speak.

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Response Posted - 04/13/2005 :  11:22:54  Show Profile
Any issues when installing, you ask? Not really. I simply followed the advise of the nice folks on this board. I overdrilled the holes, filled them with epoxy, then redrilled them, tapped the holes for the bolt, and that was it.

One thing I did, and I don't know if it helped specifically with this project, but I liberally put masking tape over the areas where I was drilling to hopefully elminate any collateral damage to the gelcoat around the holes. Seems on the few times when I used to drill without using tape, I would end up shattering some of the gelcoat right around the hole, making it look bad. As long as you epoxy it up real good, it's probably fine. Since I did this when installing my roller, and there was no chipping, I'm guessing it worked because of my tape. But I suppose I could have simply gotten lucky.

Oh yeah, and just make sure you leave enough overhang on the roller so that roller itself moves freely. A lot of this is just common sense, but with me, if I don't write them down, I can't be certain I'd remember when I'm in the heat of battle (so to speak).

Good luck.

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