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Gloss
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Initially Posted - 06/01/2005 :  20:56:14  Show Profile
Please see my other post with mainsail cover questions, I just thought of another thing.
I would also like to install lazy jacks, but probably can't get to it for a while. Should I wait until I do that job before ordering a cover? Can you just anticipate where your attachment points will be and design around your assumptions. Yes, I know what they say about "assume"

Frank Gloss
Formerly 89WK/TR
85 Ericson 32-3 shoal draft "Molto Bene"

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lcharlot
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Response Posted - 06/02/2005 :  22:42:21  Show Profile
If you know you are going to install lazy jacks this year, you might as well wait. Get the cover made to accomodate the jack lines, instead of having to modify it after the fact.

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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 06/02/2005 :  23:23:30  Show Profile  Visit Frank Hopper's Homepage
Frank,
Have you ever seen the Doyle Stack Pack? It is intended for larger boats but would work fine on ours. The stack pack is lazy-jacks on steroids, let go the halyard and zip the sail cover. With a furler there is no quicker way to put a boat to bed! (short of a large blow torch)

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DanM
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Response Posted - 06/03/2005 :  06:52:37  Show Profile  Visit DanM's Homepage
Frank, What are lazy-jacks? And are you refering to a mainsail furler? Also, I haven't seen covers here (Buffalo) on self-furling headsails. But I'm interested. Is it a benefit, or just too complicated?

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Brooke Willson
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Response Posted - 06/03/2005 :  08:27:24  Show Profile
Frank, I installed the Harken small boat lazy jack kit. Once the sail is down, I loosen the jack line, retract the lines forward and hook them over the big halyard cleats on the mast. Then they're completely out of the way to put on the sail cover. No sail cover modification is needed.

Brooke

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roberoo
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Response Posted - 06/04/2005 :  00:38:28  Show Profile  Visit roberoo's Homepage
Check out the Mack Pack.......

Mack Pack+Roller Furling+New motor=Marriage saver :)

http://macksails.com/mackpack.htm

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ddlyle
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Response Posted - 06/04/2005 :  09:52:06  Show Profile  Visit ddlyle's Homepage
DAN M ...

Lazy Jacks are small lines between the Boom and Mast that act as a cradle to catch the mainsail when you lower it. Very handy.

You can drop the main quickly and it will be cradled by the lazy jack (lines) so that you don't have to immediately go up to the cabin top to secure the main with your sail ties.

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DanM
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Response Posted - 06/06/2005 :  07:37:32  Show Profile  Visit DanM's Homepage
Thanks everyone, I'll look into it.
Bob, might that have been you I hailed Saturday afternoon? I'm berthed at RCR. Hope to meet you.

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Oscar
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Response Posted - 06/06/2005 :  09:25:48  Show Profile  Visit Oscar's Homepage
In addition to the potential for getting it "wrong", adapting the cover for Lazy Jacks has two drawbacks.....water infiltration and cost. On Lady Kay I tighten the lazy jacks, drop the main, then put regular sailties around it (this can be done when tied up or at anchor if the water is rough). Then I loosen the jacks enough to put a regular sail cover on the sail. When its all done I tighten the jacks just enough to pick up the slack....works good, and any off the shelf and on sale cover will work.

http://www.woodenshoemusic.com/Images/familypics/Forumshots/Stripeafter.jpg

Lady Kay C42#76 (Ex C250#618)

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Sloop Smitten
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Response Posted - 06/06/2005 :  10:24:00  Show Profile
Make your own Lazy Jacks.
http://www.catalina25-250.org/tech/tech25/nthdegre.html

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