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Wes and Anna Magby
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Initially Posted - 06/08/2005 :  01:36:33  Show Profile
We have begun to notice that the water from the sinks does not drain out of our boat. we find water in the bilge area. the pump is starboard of the center where the keel fits under the bilge. there are 3 other areas that still have water in them even after the bilge pump does not pump any more water out. We ran water into the galley sink but did not see it drain out of the hole in the stern where the bilge pump empties. any ideas what's up?

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lcharlot
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Response Posted - 06/08/2005 :  08:30:57  Show Profile
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<br />We ran water into the galley sink but did not see it drain out of the hole in the stern where the bilge pump empties. any ideas what's up?
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You sink does not drain out through the hole in the transom - that's only the bilge pump hose. The sink and icebox drain is a thru-hull on the port side, just under the stove. Open the lower of the two cabinet doors under the stove and you will see the thru-hull. It is probably not leaking, or you would be getting a LOT of water in the bilge (or the boat would have sunk).

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ClamBeach
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Response Posted - 06/08/2005 :  09:36:02  Show Profile
Indeed, there are several low spots in the C25 bilges that don't drain water to the pump... (unless it starts to get very deep). Most of the older C25's will accumulate water from the topsides until you re-bed the deck hardware, windows, rails, jib tracks, and re-seal the hull-deck joint.

Just a maintenance process that sailboat owners will go through every 10 to 15 years. (or so)

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Buzz Maring
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Response Posted - 06/08/2005 :  10:50:22  Show Profile
Hi Wes & Anna,

As Larry pointed out, the sink(s) don't drain into the bilge. Here is a link that shows the location of the through-hulls used for draining the two sinks and the ice box: [url="http://www.catalina25-250.org/manbro/pictures/4-3-5.gif"]Through-hull drains[/url]

The National Association web site has a ton of good info on it. Among other things, there are two versions of the C-25 manual there ("original" and "newer" version). I printed them out and put them in a binder so I could refer to them when I don't have access to a computer ... here is a link: [url="http://www.catalina25-250.org/manbro/manbro.html"]C-25 manuals[/url]

As Bruce (ClamBeach) suggested, it is likely that most of the water that shows up in the bilge is rain water (or "wash" water) that has come in through the windows, deck hardware, etc. ... we've all battled the leaks, but IMHO these old boats are worth the effort.

You're going to love your boat ... welcome to the group!

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dhunt
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Response Posted - 06/08/2005 :  15:28:03  Show Profile
DON'T do anything rash to the drain lines that go to the thru hull fittings! Remember that these are below the waterline. Inspect them carefully and you'll find they are in the open position (else your sinks would not drain).

It is considered good practice to to upgrade the Catalina standard valves with true 'Seacocks'. Salt water sailors prefer 'marelon' (plastic composit of some kind) to traditional bronze fittings.

It is also considered GOOD practice to close all seacocks to thru hulls anytime the boat is unattended. The reason is that the failure of a hose or other, below the waterline, component can sink the boat (slowly but surely). If you have a marine head, be sure to close it's inlet seacock as there is a second valve (called the joker valve) that can fail.

Eventually, if you keep the boat long enough, you'll get to know the basic systems very well . . . The more you know, the safer you'll be and the more enjoyment sailing will bring -

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