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seastream
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Initially Posted - 06/12/2005 :  19:34:14  Show Profile  Visit seastream's Homepage
Ever wonder why? They're known for good torque at low rpm's. Seems to me that they'd be a trifle safer, due to the low volatility of diesel fuel vs gasoline. Just wondering.

Bob

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Leon Sisson
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Response Posted - 06/12/2005 :  20:38:15  Show Profile  Visit Leon Sisson's Homepage
No diesel outboards? Sure there are! Been around for a while. There was even a 2-stroke one:



If you mean what's the current state of the art in diesel outboards, there's [url="http://www.morganequipment.net/page13.html"]this sleek beauty[/url]:



... featuring "Auto tilt & avoiding collide system"

-- Leon Sisson

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ClamBeach
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Response Posted - 06/12/2005 :  20:54:20  Show Profile
The robust construction needed to handle the high compression ratios needed by the diesel combustion cycle make the engines very heavy relative to gasoline engines.

That said, there are some diesel outboards (a bit more modern than the above) available... not commonly found in the USA though. I remember a PR 'stunt' from a decade or so ago where a team circumnavigated a small (25'?) RIB using a pair of diesel outboards. (They were Yanmar I think)

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ClamBeach
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Response Posted - 06/12/2005 :  20:55:49  Show Profile
Here they are... yanmar..

http://www.yanmar.com.au/marine/d_series/dseries.htm

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Response Posted - 06/12/2005 :  21:05:03  Show Profile
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<br />The robust construction needed to handle the high compression ratios needed by the diesel combustion cycle make the engines very heavy relative to gasoline engines.
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Our Universal 12 weighs 175 pounds.

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Ben
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Response Posted - 06/13/2005 :  07:59:16  Show Profile
One of the folks in a neighboring slip to us has an engine that looks very similar to the second picture in Leon's post. Their boat is a Clipper Marine 26. I always thought it looked unusual, maybe now I know why.

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bobmac
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Response Posted - 06/14/2005 :  13:32:35  Show Profile
Ah, but do they make one in a 25" plus shaft ?

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tinob
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Response Posted - 06/14/2005 :  14:14:39  Show Profile
YAH, Bob and if they make one in 25/27" length and 10 h.p. I'm in.

Val on Calista # 3936

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atgep
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Response Posted - 06/14/2005 :  18:54:21  Show Profile
I use a small diesel engine like that at work on an aircraft servicing cart. It is a neat, but shall I say "double hearing protection required" .

Tom.

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tinob
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Response Posted - 06/15/2005 :  12:50:02  Show Profile
Tom,

I'm into saving what's left of my hearing and use protection when using any diesel/gas machinery about the grounds but it seems to me that if the exhaust is submerged it will mitigate the need for hearing protection. Or at least I hope so. Still should such a product appear your suggestion should be right up there with things to consider before purchase.

Val on Calista # 3936

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bobmac
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Response Posted - 06/16/2005 :  13:40:43  Show Profile
good point re: exhaust. Probably leaves a real mess in the air, or in the water.. Probably not EPA2008 compliant.

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