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Cactus Jack
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Initially Posted - 06/13/2005 : 08:15:38

We have a 1980 C25. There's a leak somewhere in the bow and water runs into the storage locker under the v-berth. Today I was trying to find the source of the leak by having my wife spray water over the bow from a hose while I watched from below. Coincidentally, it started raining pretty hard, and I could see water just streaming in right at the forepeak, behind the small access panel. At first, it looked like it was coming from the anchor locker, around where the drain tube comes out of the locker. I don't think this is the source, however, as I've cleaned out the anchor locker and hosed it pretty good, with no water leaking inside. Plus, my wife said that while she was spraying water, there was none coming out of the anchor locker drain, meaning none was getting in.

My next thought was that the leak is around the forestay chainplate, as that is right above the anchor locker drain tube. Looking at the chainplate from outside, there is no obvious space for water to get past, though I know water has a way of finding the smallest spaces.

My question is, is this a common area to develop a leak? Has anyone else here dealt with a leak around this chainplate? I'm sure the best way to seal this chainplate is to remove it, clean the old sealant off, and reseal. Considering how lazy I am, is there an easier way to reseal this area?

Thanks for any suggestions,
Jack

C25 "Zephyr"
Palm Harbor, FL

Edited by - Cactus Jack on 06/13/2005 15:19:08

Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 06/13/2005 : 08:42:46

Since you had the volume you are describing then I doubt it is a stanchion base that is causing it. The Anchor locker drain tube is infamous for leaking as is a loose bow-eye. Both access the exact place you are seeing water. You may have a leak free anchor locker drain from within the locker but it may leak around it out on the hull. The amount of water you are seeing is runoff, it cannot come from a spot source. Water runs down the outside of the bow past the drain and the bow-eye. I have repaired both locations, there are some pictures of the repairs at the site in my sig. Welcome to the forum and thanks for asking for advise. It seems everyone who comes looking for answers ends up adding to the knowledge base.

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tinob
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Response Posted - 06/13/2005 : 12:26:41

Hi Jack,

Welcome to the site. Occasionally one might have a leak if/when the deck/hull join isn't sealed properly.
One more possibility.

Val on Calista # 3936

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cvwall
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Response Posted - 06/13/2005 : 16:43:24

I had a leak where the forestay chainplate goes behind the rub rail. I sealed the heck out of it, and have had no trouble since.

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JoergK
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Response Posted - 06/14/2005 : 15:31:41

Frank, you mentioned pictures of your repair jobs. How do I access these? I have the same problem as Jack, although not "streaming" in.

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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 06/14/2005 : 17:49:23

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by JoergK
 Frank, you mentioned pictures of your repair jobs. How do I access these? I have the same problem as Jack, although not "streaming" in.
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the site is a hot link in my signature. There are multiple "pages" with slideshows on each page. Any picture can be clicked on while in the slideshow for a slight enlargement.

Drain and Boweye in "Projects"

Edited by - Frank Hopper on 06/14/2005 18:59:14

ronrryan
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Response Posted - 06/14/2005 : 22:46:56

I'm betting on the anchor locker draintube and the backing plate, I had to do those items when I got Orion, archives have plenty of dope on thios good luck, ron Orion sw fl sr sk #2343

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pjeffarch
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Response Posted - 06/14/2005 : 22:52:32

Hey Jack - Welcome to the forum! I had the exact leak and search, and I'm convinced its coming through the locker drain. You may look veeery closely at the forestay area and re-seal just for fun (I know, we're all lazy!)...but I'd work on the locker drain first, then see if that solves the problem.

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Cactus Jack
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Response Posted - 06/16/2005 : 09:11:19

Thanks for the suggestions, everyone! I hope to get back to it this weekend, and isolate / fix the problem.

Frank - You have a pic under Projects titled "clamp trick". What were you doing here? The reason I ask is that I bought a new CB winch handle from Catalina Direct. It came with a new "hub" that attaches to the winch drive shaft. Problem is, I cannot get the old hub off. I've checked with Catalina Direct and with the winch manufacturer, neither could tell me how to remove it. The new hub threads onto the shaft, and has two setscrews to lock it in place. The old one does not have setscrews, and I'm not ever sure the new one is going to fit, as the setscrews may hit the winch frame. I've tried clamping the winch drum as you picture, but it won't hold tightly enough to allow me to unthread the hub, if that is indeed the way it's attached.

Thanks,
Jack

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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 06/16/2005 : 10:56:06

I was replacing the cable, it is so stiff that without two vice grips holding the cable one would have a very hard time getting the clamp back on the winch. There has to have been several incarnations of the winch over the long history of our boats. I recommend that you buy a complete new winch with the hub pre-installed. Life is too short, spend the money; go sailing.

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Cactus Jack
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Response Posted - 06/17/2005 : 13:25:17

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by fhopper@mac.com
 I was replacing the cable, it is so stiff that without two vice grips holding the cable one would have a very hard time getting the clamp back on the winch. There has to have been several incarnations of the winch over the long history of our boats. I recommend that you buy a complete new winch with the hub pre-installed. Life is too short, spend the money; go sailing.
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Yeah, the thought has crossed my mind. How tough is it to replace the winch without hauling out the boat? Do you anchor out in water deep enough to allow the CB to hang all the way down, taking the load off the cable? Or is there an easy way to change the winch dockside?

Jack

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Mark Loyacano
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Response Posted - 06/20/2005 : 09:49:00

Kansas has had a lot of rain lately. No leaking into the forepeak area, at long last.....
I removed the old style eyebrow navigation lights and filled in the holes left there (putting a new light assembly on the bow rail), installed a new anchor locker drain (sealed at both ends so water won't drain through the area between the locker and the hull) and (after removing the rubrail) filled in any potential leak areas around the hull to deck fitting areas.
Everything stays nice and dry for now.

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