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reuben
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Initially Posted - 06/16/2005 : 21:20:27

We flew the cruising chute for the first time today - hot sun, barely a ghosting wind, good day for learning a big sail. Having never set a spinnaker before, let alone used a "chute scoop," & having no documentation or drawings, we did a fair amount of scratching & squinting upward & wondering how things should go. Fortunately there are only so many combinations and finally the moons aligned and a breeze came out of the southwest at 5. We had an hour or so of poetry, reaching along under this fairly breathtaking spinnaker of red and orange and purple and blue, then the wind died and we doused it and went swimming instead. An observation and two questions: since my jib's on a furler, I'm using the jib halyard to lift the chute. Therefore the chute's attached aft of the furler at the masthead, which seems inefficient. Is there a better way? Second: instead of using two sheets, as with the jib, do you use a single sheet, passing it forward around the furler on each gybe?

Incidentally there was an older, very pretty O'Day 26 on the bay, like us casting about for puffs, but without a spinnaker. Once we popped the chute the O'Day appeared to diminish quickly in size. Not that we were flying, but on this glassy afternoon the big sail seemed to be the difference between moving and sitting still.

A year in and still asking nube questions. Thanks in advance for your replies.

Reuben
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Bayfield, WI

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Jeff McK
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Response Posted - 06/16/2005 : 23:08:10

Reuben,

I would recommend rigging a block on a swivel onto the forward most pin in the masthead casting (in FRONT of the one where the forestay is attached), Bring the jib halyard forward through that block& then fly your spinnaker from there. You will find it easier to hoist/douse & gybe, less risk of fouling on the rolled up jib.

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Arlyn Stewart
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Response Posted - 06/17/2005 : 07:39:02

Jeff gives good advice to go with a forward spinnaker halyard. My addition would be that as this is rigged, check the halyard that it doesn't foul the furler. If it does, then a mast crane will need added to the forward pin location on the mast truck to move the block forward a few inches. A mast crane has been generally needed when using a spinnaker on 250s using the CDI furler.

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reuben
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Response Posted - 06/17/2005 : 09:57:29

Thanks, Jeff and Arlyn. Looks like this may be my excuse to buy a bosun's chair... can you tell me what a mast crane is?

Any other spinnaker testimonials from 250 owners?

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Capt. Kurt
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Response Posted - 06/17/2005 : 12:54:06

Reuben,
I believe Arlyn is talking about one of these:

http://www.catalinadirect.com/spinnaker%20crane%20C-27.cfm

Kurt
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tbader
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Response Posted - 06/22/2005 : 15:13:35

I have an asym spinnaker on order, so I have spent a lot of time thinking about how I am going to rig this sail. Reuben's post was timely.

I had thought that the spinnaker was *supposed to* be forward of the forestay, but in looking at the stem fitting and the masthead truck, I couldn't figure out how to arrange it. Thanks to Arlyn and Kurt for solving the problem at the masthead. Any suggestions for the best way of attaching the sail tack? That CDI drum is pretty large and occupies a lot of real estate on the bow. It looks to me like it will be difficult to set up the sail tack either fore or aft of the furler. Any thoughts?

Also, I understand the sheets should be led as far astern as possible. Reuben (or others) how did you rig the sheets? Blocks? Cleats? And where did you attach any hardware?

Thanks in advance.

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Jim Mc
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Response Posted - 06/22/2005 : 23:09:55

I have a one page Catalina drawing on how to rig the cruising spinnaker along with a write up from Dolyle sails on how to set one up and fly it. I can fax you a copy if it will help.

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Jeff McK
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Response Posted - 06/22/2005 : 23:40:54

Reuben,

Check out this link from the past year:

http://www.catalina25-250.org/forum/topic.asp?ARCHIVE=true& TOPIC_ID=7853& SearchTerms=Gennaker

There are also some things out there in the search function under asymmetrical, cruising spinnaker, and a few I have probably forgotten.

Tom: Look at the baseplate of the forestay. There are a couple of holes aft of the forestay pin. I put a long captive-pin shackle (wired of course) there & hooked the block to it. This should give you enough clearance for the tack line.

Edited by - Jeff McK on 06/22/2005 23:45:10

reuben
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Response Posted - 03/08/2006 : 11:42:51

With April and ice-out looming, I'm bringing this topic back to the fore. In trying to picture Jeff's suggestion (a block on a swivel attached to the forwardmost pin at the masthead) it would seem cleaner to fit that forward pin with a sheave and run the jib halyard through that to fly the chute. Has anyone tried this? Thanks in advance for all replies...

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Response Posted - 03/14/2006 : 19:49:52

Kurt or any one else out there do you know if this will fit a c250 mast head? Has anyone got a spinnaker crane from CD which fit a C250? The picture in Kurt's post is a spinnaker crane for a C22

but his reffrence was for a spinnaker crane for a C27. Two diffrent part numbers in the CD catalog. Catalina Direct doesn't seem to know if either of these will work on a C250.

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