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crystal_blue
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Initially Posted - 04/10/2025 :  18:55:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Greetings -

I am thinking about getting the Catalina Direct Genoa Sleeve for my boat (Part No. E2164 - see https://www.catalinadirect.com/shop-by-boat/catalina-250/canvas-covers/genoa-sleeve-for-c-25-standard-rig-c-250-standard-rig/). The advertised length is 29 feet. That seems slightly long for my rig--the luff of my 110% jib is 27'2"; and I measured the (CDI) furler itself at about 28'4" from the top of the drum to the top of the furler itself. I emailed the folks at CD and they were more than willing to cut one to a custom length; but they also mentioned that they've sold a number of the 29-foot sleeves and have never heard of any issues with them being too long.

Does anyone here have experience with this product? Is 29' too long? Just right? Or am I overthinking this, and it's just not an issue because the sleeve is wide enough to fit right over the furling drum itself?

Thanks--
Jim and Crystal Smith
Lehi, Utah
1996 Catalina 250 WB #191 "Mariah"
Edited by - crystal_blue on 04/10/2025 18:56:28

Russ.Johnson
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Response Posted - 04/12/2025 :  20:59:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Jim,

I have a partial answer.
About 15-years ago, I bought the Genoa cover from Catalina Direct,
It works well and I still use it.
The product has changed to add the anti-flogging line.
My didn’t have it, so I created my own.
The current one looks better than mine.

In the C250 Owners manual, the forestay is shown as 29’ 7”
If the cover is longer than the sail that wouldn’t be that bad.

Here is C250 Owners Manual
https://www.catalina-capri-25s.org/manbro/man250.asp#12

Here is the rigging length
https://www.catalina-capri-25s.org/manbro/pictures/m25012.gif
Russ Johnson
2005 C250WB Hull 793
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Kim Luckner
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Response Posted - 04/13/2025 :  06:37:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The 3rd tab on the Catalina Direct site, your link, mentions the 250 specifically as possibly being a unique length.
Seeadler
'79 C25 SR/FK #1432
Mentor Lagoons
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crystal_blue
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Response Posted - 05/02/2025 :  09:01:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks, folks. I went ahead and ordered the stock 29' sleeve and will report back as to how it fits.
Jim and Crystal Smith
Lehi, Utah
1996 Catalina 250 WB #191 "Mariah"
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OLarryR
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Response Posted - 05/02/2025 :  12:58:31  Show Profile  Visit OLarryR's Homepage  Reply with Quote
After reading this post, I was also considering buying a Genoa sleeve. I recently replaced my sails with new Quantum main and 150 Genoa. I ordered the Genoa furling sail with the trim covering - My old sail had Sunbrella but I wanted them to install a lighter weight material but I forgot to order it in a color…like blue. It was furnished in white….oh well. White is generally okay but my experience the last time I ordered sails was when my boat was in a marina across from Natl Reagan Airport. I brought my sails into Quantum (Annapolis, Md) after 2 years (that’s to gain addl warranty years). At a minimum, they were going to inspect the sails and then clean them. They called me up and wanted to know where I was sailing. They then indicated that explained why my white sail trim was discolored a bit and indicated that washing the sails would not remove the sort of oily contamination probably coming from the airport. They suggested they replace the trim with blue sunbrella so the contamination was not noticeable. Okay….so now I am further downriver and not near the airport - Some sailboats in my marina have white trim on their furled sails and the white trim seems not to be contaminated……so maybe not worth it for me getting a Genoa sleeve just to keep white trim remaining white….may not be an issue.
Larry
'89 Robin's Nest#5820, Potomac River/Quantico, Va
http://catalina25.homestead.com/olarryr.html
Edited by - OLarryR on 05/02/2025 13:00:04
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crystal_blue
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Response Posted - 05/02/2025 :  20:59:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
So, my 29' sleeve from Catalina Direct arrived today; and I installed it. It maybe could have stood to be 6" shorter; but overall I was surprised at how well it fit given the measurements I had taken.



One thing that might be worth noting, for those who are inclined to be very fussy about such things: Although you can't really tell in the photo, the "navy blue" of the genoa sleeve is noticeably darker than the "navy blue" of CD's other offerings (which on my boat, include the winch covers and--I presume--the mainsail cover).
Jim and Crystal Smith
Lehi, Utah
1996 Catalina 250 WB #191 "Mariah"
Edited by - crystal_blue on 05/02/2025 21:08:12
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OLarryR
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Response Posted - 05/03/2025 :  06:15:51  Show Profile  Visit OLarryR's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Do you know if the Catalina Direct Genoa Sleeve is made by ATN ? ATN seems to be the main or popular maker of Genoa sleeves. Reading the Catalina Direct sleeve info, I did not notice any mention of who makes their sleeves - If they have it made specifically for selling it themselves or if ATN is furnishing them?


Also, it is hard to see from your photo if there is the cross line reinforcement along the sleeve that ATN sleeves have which I guess is used to somewhat cinch up the sleeve material along the entire sleeve. I am assuming your photo is one with the new sleeve on it ? If so, I am surprised how compact/narrow diameter the Genoa and sleeve are along its entire length ! It seems my old and especially my new Genoa (especially the new Genoa), no way does my genoas furl up to such a narrow diameter. I would think that the Genoa sleeve, even if cinched up, the diameter would be even a bit larger. Then again, I have noticed some other boats in my marina that seem to have furled sails with narrower diameters when furled - Maybe there are 110% or 130% and/or of a lighter grade Dacron....not sure.

Anyway, thanks for sharing your info and enjoy your new Genoa sleeve!!
Larry
'89 Robin's Nest#5820, Potomac River/Quantico, Va
http://catalina25.homestead.com/olarryr.html
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OLarryR
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Response Posted - 05/03/2025 :  07:27:56  Show Profile  Visit OLarryR's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I think I have the answer to one of my questions…which I should have figured out from the get-go! The reason my genoas when furled are way larger in diameter than some other boats in my marina that have genoas is probably mostly to do with the UV trim sewed onto the sail. That trim material especially if made of sunbrella or fabric other than a double layer of Dacron would significantly add to the furled diameter and overall weight of the sail. The Dacron density plays a role as well since sails are made to different thread density making some Dacron sails less prone to stretch and since they have higher thread counts probably are a bit larger in furled diameter….but mostly it is whether the furled sail was furnished with UV trim or not that then adds to the furled diameter! Obviously, genoas sold without the UV trim, a genoa sleeve is mostly of benefit for protection from UV….versus only providing a covering for a white sail subjected to potential urban/proximity to an airport air contamination.
Larry
'89 Robin's Nest#5820, Potomac River/Quantico, Va
http://catalina25.homestead.com/olarryr.html
Edited by - OLarryR on 05/03/2025 07:30:26
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