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SeaHunter
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Initially Posted - 03/26/2025 :  08:42:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
My new to me C-250 WB is looking really nice after a winter of wet sanding, compounding, polishing and waxing. I wet sanded (1000,2000,3000), compounded, polished and waxed the tinted windows and they look new.

Got to do a little sailing (early warm days here in South Carolina)

It's time to replace the 20 year old jib. UV has destroyed the luff and there is now a 6' long tear right along the luff. Being so old I just want to get a new one.

Looking for recommended Jib/Genoa configuration and vendors

Thank you!
2005 Catalina 250 WB #821

Ellen254
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Response Posted - 03/26/2025 :  09:04:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I had to replace mine on my 2004 C-250 after a storm last fall that ripped my original jib down the middle. I reached out to Josh Wilus at Doyle Sails Gulf Coast and he was very helpful in helping me get the right measurements to replace with a 135% genoa with sun cover. It was right at $1400 with shipping from FL to TX. doylegulfcoast@gmail.com
2004 C250WK #750 Waco, TX
"Ba-de-ya"
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bigelowp
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Response Posted - 03/26/2025 :  13:22:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Check out Catalina Direct -- they sell sails from Ullman, Ventura loft. Gary Swenson at Ullman is an expert on all Catalina models (he supplied Catalina yachts) and Catalina Direct has very competitive pricing.
Peter Bigelow
C-25 TR/FK #2092 Limerick
Rowayton, Ct
Port Captain: Rowayton/Norwalk/Darien CT
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SeaHunter
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Response Posted - 04/07/2025 :  13:20:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
How do I tell if I currently have a 135% Genoa or the 110% Jib.

My foresail rests on the lifeline, should it? The sail reaches past both shrouds.
2005 Catalina 250 WB #821
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Steve Milby
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Response Posted - 04/07/2025 :  15:22:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by SeaHunter

How do I tell if I currently have a 135% Genoa or the 110% Jib.

My foresail rests on the lifeline, should it? The sail reaches past both shrouds.

The foot of a 110% jib should be about 11', or slightly less. The foot of a 135% jib should be about 13'. When you're beating to windward, the jib should be trimmed inside the lifelines.
Steve Milby J/24 "Captiva Wind"
previously C&C 35, Cal 25, C25 TR/FK, C22
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SeaHunter
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Response Posted - 04/07/2025 :  16:20:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks for the help everyone!

Hope to figure it out tomorrow and get one ordered soon. It's sailing weather!
2005 Catalina 250 WB #821
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Voyager
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Response Posted - 04/08/2025 :  11:26:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
My 135% genoa just about reaches my upper shroud. Hope that helps.
Just a suggestion, if you can find a great bargain price, go with it. Right now, tariffs might not have kicked in just yet…

If not, could you patch your jib using sail tape until next season? You can get a great 20% discount from CD.
They offer this price if you order in September or October, and you take delivery in March (2026).
Of course that’s a long time to wait.
Bruce Ross
Passage ~ SR-FK ~ C25 #5032

Port Captain — Milford, CT
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slacker
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Response Posted - 04/12/2025 :  10:56:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You might want to keep in mind that a furled 135 is not the same as a sail made to be a 110. The foot shape is completely different than a 110 and the sail shape is not the same so it does sail differently.
Paul Schupbach
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SeaHunter
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Response Posted - 05/21/2025 :  12:07:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Still researching and now shopping and getting quotes.

I can get a contender supercruise cross-cut for $900 including shipping? The company is Direct-Sails.com

Catalina Direct are Ullman Sails - 110% is $1120 135% $1279 both then add not standard shipping...

I sail light wind a lot on our mountain lake and several have suggested going with the 135% to grab more of the light air downwind.

A few here have said they bought 135% Genoa's, do you really see a difference. Any problems with the sail actually fitting between shrouds and life line. My boat does have long tracks for the jib sheets so I assume that is to handle different size sails as well as wind conditions.

Does the 135% genoa work fine with the OEM furler? Don't want to go to furl my sail and then it runs out of furler

Great feedback so far thanks for helping this novice!
2005 Catalina 250 WB #821
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Russ.Johnson
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Response Posted - 05/23/2025 :  20:59:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yes, the 135% jib fits on the OEM furler.
I also have a 2005 with a CDI FF2 furler
Russ Johnson
2005 C250WB Hull 793
Edited by - Russ.Johnson on 05/23/2025 21:03:54
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SeaHunter
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Response Posted - 05/23/2025 :  22:06:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thank you Russ!!

It looks like a 135% with foam luff, contender supercruise, cross cut, from direct-sails.com $1100 to the door (tariffs a big to these guys)


Doyle Sails were very expensive, clue radial cut and does not recommend 135%, actual smaller than OEM with 106% $1800

All three quotes and I assume caralina direct are coming from Asia.

I now know way more about sails. Thank y'all
2005 Catalina 250 WB #821
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Russ.Johnson
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Response Posted - 05/25/2025 :  16:42:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here’s something to think about.
I have a Catalina Direct / Ulman replacement jib.
I use a jib sock, which uses the extra jib halyard and is raised at the dock.
The jib doesn’t have the Sunbrella cover.
This combination works well for me.

Here’s an example
https://www.catalinadirect.com/shop-by-boat/catalina-250/canvas-covers/genoa-sleeve-for-c-25-standard-rig-c-250-standard-rig/?SearchResults=1
Russ Johnson
2005 C250WB Hull 793
Edited by - Russ.Johnson on 05/25/2025 17:03:37
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Stinkpotter
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Response Posted - 05/26/2025 :  10:06:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This is from recollection of others' descriptions of their rigs--not first-hand experience with a C-250... I recall that the 250 WB is rigged differently for headsail sheeting than the wing keel is--one running outside the shrouds, and one inside. (?) I also vaguely recall that one (the Wk?) was changed during its production run, moving the shrouds closer to the mast to better accommodate a 135 sheeting? I don't know how any of this affects the choice of a sail, but I suspect CD does. I also recall that the standard headsail for the WB has always been a 110, while the 135 was a popular option on the WK from the factory--I don't know if Catalina even offered that with the WB. The difference has to do with the basic stabilities--the WB being more tender, which I suspect was a factor in their discontinuing the tall rig as an option for either model. (The fin keel was also dropped, but I saw a FK-TR C-250 some 20-30 years ago.)

Just observations for consideration and perhaps discussion with CD (if not Catalina Yachts, where any given person might no longer be that familiar with the C-250). When looking at advice here, I would note what boat and configuration each contributor has. C-25s are very different from C-250s (except for their length), and 250 WBs are different from 250 WKs in some significant ways.
Dave Bristle
Association "Port Captain" for Mystic/Stonington CT
PO of 1985 C-25 SR/FK #5032 Passage, USCG "sixpack" (expired),
Now on Eastern 27 $+!nkp*+ Sarge
Edited by - Stinkpotter on 05/26/2025 10:31:45
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SeaHunter
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Response Posted - 05/27/2025 :  08:09:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Russ.Johnson

Here’s something to think about.
I have a Catalina Direct / Ulman replacement jib.
I use a jib sock, which uses the extra jib halyard and is raised at the dock.
The jib doesn’t have the Sunbrella cover.
This combination works well for me.

Here’s an example
https://www.catalinadirect.com/shop-by-boat/catalina-250/canvas-covers/genoa-sleeve-for-c-25-standard-rig-c-250-standard-rig/?SearchResults=1


Thank you Russ. I am planning to use the extra halyard for a spinnaker in the future. I had thought it would be perfect for one of those socks.

I am about to commit to the 135% genoa. I am a bit concerned about it squeezing between the lifeline and shrouds, there are only inches there.

Did you do anything to modify lifeline etc. to make it work or does it just work by adjusting the track? Do you use it reefed some on up wind and fully open on downwind?
2005 Catalina 250 WB #821
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Russ.Johnson
Commodore

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Response Posted - 06/07/2025 :  16:11:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I’ve sailed with both the 110% jib (original) and 135% jib (upgrade).
Upwind, the larger jib fits well between the lifelines and the shrouds.
Downwind, both jibs worked the same.
I don’t have a pole for downwind.

The larger jib takes a little practice, but I was happy with the result.
Russ Johnson
2005 C250WB Hull 793
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SeaHunter
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Response Posted - 06/07/2025 :  16:32:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thank Russ. 135% being built in Hong Kong supposed to arrive in 3 weeks.
2005 Catalina 250 WB #821
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