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zeil
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Initially Posted - 05/28/2021 :  16:40:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

Not even completely finished adding a few more additions on our present boat however... could not resist passing up on this 2000 C250WK

Actually we were shopping around for an asymmetrical spinnaker when we came across this fully equipped 2000 wing keeler well decked out and... having the sail we were looking for

To make a long story short we ended up buying the sail and boat to boot. The boat had been kept covered for the longest time and is in great shape.

Besides being well appointed it comes with wheel steering, traveler, teak deck in cockpit and cabin, a 135% jib, 2 reef points in the main, a Harken furler and what we really like, all lines are led aft to the cockpit.

The interior is spotless as well as the rest of the boat. It also comes with a factory built galvanized "Trailrite", trailer. Besides all... it is a freshwater boat

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Henk & Johanna
Mariah '96 C250WB #191
Lady J '00 C250WK #499

wm36
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Response Posted - 05/28/2021 :  19:09:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Henk, sounds like quite a find. I'm sure you will post pictures soon. Anxious to see her!

Wayne & Lynn
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Stinkpotter
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Response Posted - 05/29/2021 :  14:00:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
So now you can answer all of the WK/WB comparison questions!

How's the WK going to work with your road-cruise program? (...or is that program still active?)

Dave Bristle
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PO of 1985 C-25 SR/FK #5032 Passage, ex-OUPV,
Now on Eastern 27 Sarge (but still sailing when I can).

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Response Posted - 05/30/2021 :  06:06:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Is that the same ď499Ē that is the webpage banner?
Look up, I think you are famous.

Russ Johnson
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zeil
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Response Posted - 05/30/2021 :  15:09:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

Ha... thank you Russell for pointing out that sail number 499 is identical to the sail shown on the forum's banner... super interesting...

I was not in the least aware of the fact that a boat, located so close to the arctic circle, could be the one carrying the identical sail/hull number to our Catalina's forum banner. It would have to be the same

We are apparently the 4th owner.

Our plan is to bring her, in a couple of weeks from now, 1146 km or 700 miles further south to Langley, British Columbia

Yeah... it will be interesting to discover mood swings between the two boats and see what happens parked next to each other

Surprisingly the 2000 C250 WK #499 has not been named as yet... any help, ideas, suggestions, comments are invited and very welcome

Not sure at this time what to do with two boats... 4 motors and a 8ft inflatable dingy also without a name (our previous dingy was called "Someday Baby") (one suggestion: perhaps we could make one big one)

Yes... that's correct... we never finished reporting on our road & float cruise a couple of years ago when we drove crossing Canada in both directions and arriving home just a couple of days before the snow started to fly.

The entire trip was a glorious, unbelievable, fantastic 4 month towing and "living aboard the boat", adventure totaling well over 10.000 km (6200 miles) road kilometers and uncountable nautical miles.











Henk & Johanna
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Stinkpotter
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Response Posted - 05/30/2021 :  19:55:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I found that the AI (Google) conversion of 499 to Roman is something quite different, but it seems to me another logical conversion is "ID" (which could be seen as one short of 500). Id, of course, has it's own meanings, such as "satisfaction of primative needs"...

Dave Bristle
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PO of 1985 C-25 SR/FK #5032 Passage, ex-OUPV,
Now on Eastern 27 Sarge (but still sailing when I can).

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JB
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Response Posted - 05/31/2021 :  06:20:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I suffer a similar illness. I have a wing keel Catalina 25 that I've owned since 2000 and for some reason I bought a 2004 Catalina wing keel 250 last summer. Haven't gotten it wet yet. Work has been awful the last year and a half.
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Response Posted - 06/11/2021 :  07:14:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Having just spent 9 days on a Jeanneau 349 in the BVI's, I'd sure like the headroom of a WK instead of my WB.

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zeil
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Response Posted - 06/11/2021 :  11:38:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Kemp... It must've been a great experience spending a week and a half on a 35 footer. Will we be able to look forward to your cruise report?

Next Tuesday we're planning to travel, for two days just about straight north by north east and see the boat in person for the first time.

Once in Dawson Creek we look forward to meet the PO's who will hopefully allow us some time to familiarize us with the boat, inventory and its history.

After the transfer of trailer papers and road insurance we'll have the lights, brakes, wheels and tires checked before returning the 1146km (700miles) trip home.

BTW Dawson Creek, BC is located at mile 0 of the Alaska Highway


Henk & Johanna
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Voyager
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Response Posted - 06/12/2021 :  21:16:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Wow Henk! Thatís pretty far up the line at mm0.
A friendís daughter and family live up on Prince Rupert Island. He says when heís there he can go fishing for haddock out on the Sound and catch salmon in the creeks, provided that the grizzly bears allow it.
Itís fearsome territory most times of the year but June generally tends to be pretty warm. Maybe foggy? Look out.
Donít forget your mosquito hat & net and your DEET bug spray. They say that the mosquito is the provincial bird in those parts.

Bruce Ross
Passage ~ SR-FK ~ C25 #5032

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k3fuller
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Response Posted - 06/14/2021 :  09:35:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well I'll give a short one... We did the counter clockwise route around the islands: Tortola-Norman-Cooper-Virgin Gorda-Anagada-Jost Van Dyke-Peter then back to Tortola. Amazingly beautiful water and scenery even though there is still a lot of hurricane damaged trees, the snorkeling was so so. Hurricane Irma really ground up the corals and a lot of it is dead but there are some good places and from what I read it's getting better each year.

It was interesting to sail that new production boat. Twin rudders was a new thing for me and I don't like the lack of control at low/no speed. But sailing they are super responsive. I found the interior kind of cheap (laminated marine plywood). Winches too small. Really dumb jib sheet setup with the antal rings that beat the h&ll out of the deck when tacking. Interestingly enough I was happy to get back to my boat and have a new appreciation for her and the Catalina build. Oh, and get this, the boat's a 2019 and already the starboard saloon portlight was leaking.

I talked to the chief mechanic about their boats and wanted his opinions on them. He said the Jeanneau are better made than the Beneteau in his opinion. The interiors of the Bene's show wear really fast. I thought this surprising since the Jeanneau we were on had a lot of wear on the counters. I'd hate to see what a few year old Bene would look like in charter service.

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Stinkpotter
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Response Posted - 06/14/2021 :  15:35:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by k3fuller

...I'd hate to see what a few year old Bene would look like in charter service.
AKA Bendy-Toy.

Dave Bristle
Association "Port Captain" for Mystic, CT
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Now on Eastern 27 Sarge (but still sailing when I can).

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Robb
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Response Posted - 06/24/2021 :  15:41:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Congratulations on the new to you WK Henk and Johanna! Bought mine last summer after sailing a Freedom for the past 20 yrs. Happy with the boat so far - like yours, came with lots of extras. My boat has always been fresh water as well - starting life out at Lake Okanagan, taking a detour to Edmonton and now back to the Okanagan. Going to rename her "Fat Bottom Girl". The name came to me after seeing her wide-ish transom compared to some of the other boats at the dock.

Robb
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zeil
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Response Posted - 06/25/2021 :  15:27:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

Hello Robb... nice to hear from you and thank you. It would be wonderful to meet you

It so happens that one of our daughters is moving to Vernon, BC in a couple of weeks. The place they purchased is about 1 1/2 km from the lake. Of course in the back of my mind an idea starts to develop to perhaps find a slip in the area and keep it there for the summer season.

Our wing keel just arrived home in the driveway. Besides enjoying the fantastic drive to mile zero of the Alaska Highway and 2500km (1550 miles), it was a bit of a tight fit when we finally parked it in driveway below our house power line but is worked fine.

Right now I'm going over every aspect of the boat as well as it's inventory. So far I'm super impressed with the shape the boat and equipment is in.

We had a quick look at the sails which appear in good shape and of course admired the 5 color asymmetrical spinnaker complete with a snuffer which caught my attention in the first place (and bought the boat too)


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Mariah '96 C250WB #191
Lady J '00 C250WK #499
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Robb
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Response Posted - 06/26/2021 :  13:30:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Henk, I'm sure we can meet up! I'll be relocating to Vernon when I retire this fall. Have a house there already. I'm still an Alberta resident so unfortunately I cant get on the waiting list for a slip at the Vernon Yacht club. Last year there were 20 people on the wait list; this year its past 40! Might have to look at alternate mooring options for a few years. I'll want to hear more about the spinnaker as thats my next purchase when I relocate the boat out there.

Robb
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zeil
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Response Posted - 06/26/2021 :  16:59:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

Congratulations Robb with your upcoming retirement. It is an exciting time. Good choice, Vernon looks like a nice place to settle. Look forward meeting you...

We're excited that our oldest daughter, husband and kids are relocating to Vernon. We will be there to house sit a couple of weeks in late July

Just Googled Vernon Yacht club which is 3.9 km from their house. Looks like a good facility and probably will have sling facilities. In any case a ramp is located next to it. We'll take a look around

The asymmetrical light weight 5 color sail that came with the boat seems easy to set, control and douse from the cockpit which on most mountain lakes is not a luxury. The sheets are led all the way back to a block on the stern end of the coamings and cam cleated while the tack would be adjustable. The sail was only used once before. Can't wait to try it out.

North sails in Richmond, BC quoted including a furler approx. 2 grand with a 6 month ordering time. Not sure what the advantages would be of a furler versus using a sock.



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Robb
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Response Posted - 06/26/2021 :  23:14:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks for the info Henk - look forward to meeting you as well. I would think a sock would be easier to deal with. Been to the Yacht club a few times - its a good facility with a very casual atmosphere. It does have sling facilities and a ramp. Cheers

Robb
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zeil
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Response Posted - 06/27/2021 :  21:49:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

Glad we have similar boats... would love to find an opportunity to sail together. You mentioned a waiting list... are there alternatives that you are aware of?

I'm not familiar with the "Freedom" sailboat... would like if you could provide a description or some photos. Sailing it for 20 years is a long time you must miss it now? Does the Catalina fit your needs better?


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Robb
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Response Posted - 06/28/2021 :  23:02:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Henk - we can absolutely look for the opportunity - My goal is also to take the boat out to the coast once I relocate to Vernon. As for slips around Vernon, not aware of options directly around Vernon for a slip, but there may be mooring options or options to leave a rigged boat on the trailer parked close to a ramp. Failing that, Kelowna or West Kelowna may have something available at their respective marinas. Freedom had a fairly large line up of boats constructed by Tillotson Pearson in Rhode Is. (Same builder as the J boats). Mine was a Freedom 21 which was their smallest boat. Some things I liked about it were the free standing carbon fibre mast with a tabernackle hinge. The boat could be rigged in a few minutes as it had no standing rigging. (Picture a giant Laser dingy with a cabin and a cockpit the size of a C250). I'm still tying to figure out how to post pictures on the forum but there are lots of pics of the freedom line on the internet. My boat also had tiller steering and really large rudder, so it literally turned on a dime. Downside of the F21 is that it was a cat boat so while it was very easy to sail (even single handed) upwind performance was less than stellar. The C250 has a bigger and more comfortable cabin (with an enclosed head which is a really nice feature) and I like the sugar scoop transom for swimming. Its definitely a step up in size and the wheel steering has taken some getting used to, but I'm really enjoying the C250 so far.

Robb
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Response Posted - 08/31/2021 :  17:47:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
As for a name, considering there are two vessels, "Second Opinion"

Kevin J. Kiely
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