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cuetecpool Posted - 02/20/2020 : 22:08:52
Do you know of any Catalina 25 owner that has the designs for a sugar scoop. I found one in Czek republic no luck to communicating with him. Please advise
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Steve Milby Posted - 02/27/2020 : 11:38:50
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Originally posted by Stinkpotter: Note that the rudder is still effectively on the original transom....
It's always hard to tell from a photo, but it appears that the original transom is still there, and that the sugar scoop was added to it. The rudder post is now inboard, inside the cockpit, so it's moved probably 6-10" forward of it's original location, possibly a little more. A few inches of the original skeg must have been removed to allow room for the rudder post to be moved forward, into the cockpit. If the inboard rudder had been made nearly as deep as the keel, it's hard to imagine that the boat would have broached unless the keel itself lifted clear of the water.

Another difference that the modification would have made is that, moving the rudder post forward would shorten the distance from the CLR to the rudder post, and that would enable the boat to turn more quickly. If you compare the steering of a C27, with it's inboard rudder, and a C25, you'll see that the C27 can turn in a much tighter radius and is more responsive to the helm.
Stinkpotter Posted - 02/26/2020 : 21:01:37
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Originally posted by Steve Milby

Some people think it's easier to board them after a swim. The main benefit I see is the inboard rudder. A boat with a transom hung rudder is somewhat more prone to broaching when the boat heels to an extreme angle and the rudder lifts out of the water. IMO, the inboard rudder on High Anxiety could have been made a little deeper for that reason, just a little shallower than the depth of the keel.
Note that the rudder is still effectively on the original transom, so this probably doesn't help much. Generally, "sugar scoops" are part of a combination of an open transom for easy access to a swim platform and/or dingy boarding. In some cases, the transom can be closed, but is easily opened. I don't see that here.
dmpilc Posted - 02/26/2020 : 20:17:14
I remember his posts, spent a bundle of money in it. cute kid, too. Later, he sold it and bought a new boat, a Phobos 21, made there.
Steve Milby Posted - 02/23/2020 : 10:38:24
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Originally posted by SKS

That sugar scoop modification sure looks nice.
I'm just wondering, if it doesn't change the length at the waterline, and if it doesn't add room to the cockpit, is there another advantage beside appearance ?

Some people think it's easier to board them after a swim. The main benefit I see is the inboard rudder. A boat with a transom hung rudder is somewhat more prone to broaching when the boat heels to an extreme angle and the rudder lifts out of the water. IMO, the inboard rudder on High Anxiety could have been made a little deeper for that reason, just a little shallower than the depth of the keel.
SKS Posted - 02/23/2020 : 09:37:50
That sugar scoop modification sure looks nice.
I'm just wondering, if it doesn't change the length at the waterline, and if it doesn't add room to the cockpit, is there another advantage beside appearance ?
islander Posted - 02/21/2020 : 17:54:47
Or just get a Catalina Capri 26 and save yourself a whole bunch of work.
Stinkpotter Posted - 02/21/2020 : 15:02:29
...plus the built-in rudder post and radar arch(?) It seems to me that investment would have been better put into a C-270. (After all is said and done, in the USA, a '78 C-25 is a '78 C-25.)
Russ.Johnson Posted - 02/21/2020 : 13:50:49
Dave,

Thanks for the post.
Here's a link to his personal website.
http://www.kruska.cz/C25_High_Anxiety/listing.php

I downloaded a few photos.
Notice the inboard and saildrive.

Photo1


Photo2


Photo3
Stinkpotter Posted - 02/21/2020 : 07:31:21
That would be the one discussed in this thread. Tomas still posts here from time to time...

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