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jm
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Initially Posted - 06/18/2002 :  09:36:10  Show Profile
We had a bit of rain over the weekend, in fact, for some reason I subconciously started to gather pairs of animals and put them on the boat ?


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Gary B.
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Response Posted - 06/18/2002 :  10:17:50  Show Profile
I'd check gaskets on hatches, or, more likely, perhaps, make sure the anchor locker drain is not plugged. If it doesn't drain, it can back up into the cabin.

Gary B. Encore! #685

Sounds like a LOT of water for stanchion bases unless they're all really bad...


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Gary
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Response Posted - 06/18/2002 :  10:36:36  Show Profile
Check the cockpit drains. Especially if your boat has the old style drains.


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Champipple
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Response Posted - 06/18/2002 :  10:43:30  Show Profile  Visit Champipple's Homepage
Odds are its your Rubrail or Jib tracks.....With your symptoms as described above, Vegas only pays even money on the Rubrail and 3 to 2 on the Jib Tracks...Stanchions come in at 2 to 1.

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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 06/18/2002 :  11:27:14  Show Profile
My experience is that many of the stanchions can leak into the cabin, such as along the ledges above the settees, as will the jib track bolts. I fixed some jib track leaks by removing a few bolts, injecting come silicone, and tightening the bolts back down--a 2-person job with the inside teak trim removed for access to the nuts.

The anchor locker drain can leak into the locker under the v-berth, but not into the bilge unless you've made some holes to let it get there. It's easily fixed with a little silicone around the inside flange of the drain tube (and keeping the tube clear).

Rub rail leaks may be more likely to get inside the hull liner and then down to the bilge--I may have some of that problem myself, but don't expect to do anything about it till she's on the hard next fall.

Leaks in the stern rail bases could probably get to the bilge, since the aft sections of the hull are pretty open.

Seems like it's always something'...



Dave Bristle - 1985 C-25 #5032 SR-FK-Dinette "Passage" in SW CT

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Douglas
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Response Posted - 06/18/2002 :  12:39:26  Show Profile  Visit Douglas's Homepage
The one source of leak I have found has been from the cockpit drains. These 1 1/2" diamiter holes are at the transom end of the cocpit. They go from the inner linner to outer hull and are set into the stern lateraly. Although they look fine I have found they leak slowly and continualy. The lip or seem is the problem and the bottom part of these drains sits in a water catchment area or gutter. Once cleaned off the area was sealed with a small amount of white 3M 4200 or 5200 if you cant get the softer stuff. It took quite a while to find this leak but it finaly showed up when I used my daughters old side walk chalk and drew lines around inside the hull. The chalk washed away where the water crossed it under the aft bed area running forward and into the bildge. Hope this helps.

Doug&Ruth
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jm
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Response Posted - 06/18/2002 :  14:42:07  Show Profile
Douglas - what model year is your Catalina ? Are your drains the
floor mounted ones, or the holes in the transom type ?


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Douglas
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Response Posted - 06/18/2002 :  15:23:09  Show Profile  Visit Douglas's Homepage
Transom type 1983.

Doug&Ruth
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Daniel
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Response Posted - 06/18/2002 :  22:44:33  Show Profile
In my 1980 the sources of leaks following rain have been:

T-track (for jib car)
window gasket (between glass and frame)
behind rub rail (so far only in bow area)
cowl vents - new type installed by previous owner with no sealant
stanchion bolts
a couple of the cleats
area around the stern light
Area over chain plates
Under mast step

I also discovered a thin spot in the fiberglass at the base of the keel stub (I have a cast iron fin keel), which opened and allowed a slow leak into the bilge, completely missed by the surveyor. That got plugged. I rebedded most of the culprits or used flowable silicone on some (rub rail, windows); tightened the nuts on the T-track, which were getting loose. So far it is pretty dry inside. Oh yeah -there is also a small (1/2") gap between the sliding hatch and the top of the cabin, which allows some driving rain to enter. But that isn't much and ends up on the sole by the stove so easily mopped up.

I noticed too that some water does drip from where the coaming compartment meets the coaming. There is a small crack, probably because water entered, didn't completely drain and froze. That usually is just some minor dripping and I could probably just put some flowable silicone there to stop it, or dig out the crack and epoxy.





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