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Initially Posted - 10/09/2016 :  18:45:48  Show Profile
I have a set of pictures I took when running the marks Boat during a club regatta in either '03 or '04. The first are a series of shots of the '05-'06 C 25 national Champion passing a regular racer in a nice C 25. The NC boat is called Kansas Twister and is Camel brown, the "84 is white and well financed. Many have seen the super pict of Kansas Twister on her ear and sailing anyway, a large man returning from the mast is often noted; in this series notice people are moving on his boat... doing what they are told to do. Anyway, Kansas Twister was a formidable C25 well crewed and skippered.













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Response Posted - 10/10/2016 :  08:22:53  Show Profile
Neat pix--a stiff breeze! Are both SRs or is one a TR? The booms seem to be at the same height, but the mast with the un-numbered sail looks a little taller. I'd expect to see a lower boom on a TR. Twister (I presume the numbered sail) has a reefed main, likely one reason she passed the other in that breeze. It also looks to me like the other boat has a loose-footed main that isn't tensioned as highly as Twister's, plus the mainsheet angle looks like the traveler might be up (to windward)--maybe to twist of the top to spill some wind? Twister's main is like a board--what you want in that air, with a little of the "slot bubble" Steve Milby has referred to.
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Response Posted - 10/10/2016 :  16:06:11  Show Profile
Both SR both fin keel. We work very hard at feathering in stiff breezes to keep forward motion, Kansas Twister is do a great job at it in the last shot.
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Response Posted - 10/12/2016 :  07:31:20  Show Profile
I don't think that the wind dropped below 20k the whole time! We initially hoisted a brand new hi-tech 155% genoa - and promptly broached. Standing on the side of the cockpit lockers I casually mentioned to the crew that "we probably have too much sail up"...
Derek Crawford
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Response Posted - 10/12/2016 :  10:42:43  Show Profile  Visit dasreboot's Homepage
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I don't think that the wind dropped below 20k the whole time! We initially hoisted a brand new hi-tech 155% genoa - and promptly broached. Standing on the side of the cockpit lockers I casually mentioned to the crew that "we probably have too much sail up"...


I would have a lot of weatherhelm with my 135 up!
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Response Posted - 10/12/2016 :  14:05:07  Show Profile
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I don't think that the wind dropped below 20k the whole time! We initially hoisted a brand new hi-tech 155% genoa - and promptly broached. Standing on the side of the cockpit lockers I casually mentioned to the crew that "we probably have too much sail up"...


Hi Derek, this was from two years before the '05 Nationals.
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Response Posted - 10/13/2016 :  08:07:36  Show Profile
But it blew just like that in the Nationals.
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1981 C-25 TR/FK #2262 Used to have an '89 C22 #9483, "Downsized"
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