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Stinkpotter
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Response Posted - 03/08/2018 :  14:36:10  Show Profile
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Originally posted by Voyager

...Since he can bluewater sail to Cape Cod, Block Island...
Well, the water might be bluish, and those might be sailing, but they're not exactly "bluewater sailing"... (Bermuda, at 5+ days over the horizon from Montauk, qualifies.)
Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 03/08/2018 :  18:40:33  Show Profile
Right, I knew there'd be some fact checker on that, just wasn't sure who... He purchased the boat in Portland ME and sailed around the Cape rather than through the Cape Cod canal. Stayed overnights in Provincetown, Nantucket and Mystic on the way back. He does a two week run somewhere every July, hence the Bluish Water designation. Wouldn't be surprised if if he decided to go to Nova Scotia this year.
Bruce Ross
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Stinkpotter
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Response Posted - 03/08/2018 :  21:07:07  Show Profile
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Originally posted by Voyager

...hence the Bluish Water designation...
The official category is "coastal cruising." Block Island, for example, is in clear sight of Rhode Island and on a clear day is visible from my area. Provincetown is inside Cape Cod Bay. You can pick a weather window to get from here to there, and find places to hide when things aren't as you expected. "Blue water" is when you can't. (If you choose to go around the outside of Cape Cod (?), you're sorta stuck out there for the whole day looking at a beach... Sailing across the width of Lake Michigan is a bigger deal.)

Looking forward to Block Island in my coastal cruiser as the slush melts around it...
Dave Bristle
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Dave5041
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Response Posted - 03/09/2018 :  22:39:20  Show Profile
My insurance defines "coastal" as no more than 25NM offshore. Crossing Lake Erie just qualifies since I'm within 25 NM of Ohio or Ontario at all times.

Dave B. aboard Pearl
1982 TR/SK/Trad. #3399
Lake Erie/Florida Panhandle
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Voyager
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Response Posted - 03/10/2018 :  19:46:07  Show Profile
Well, I visited my new slip today and it has 30A power and water. The slip is 36" wide so it might be a challenge wheeling the cart onto the slip. The main dock is 60" wide. I've got a single step to allow easier access onto the boat. I met some of my dockmates today who were prepping their Sabre for a mid-April launch. Friendly types. I'll be two weeks behind them.
Bruce Ross
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Stinkpotter
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Response Posted - 03/11/2018 :  08:01:25  Show Profile
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Originally posted by Voyager

The slip is 36" wide so it might be a challenge...
...getting a 96" wide C-25 into it! (Terminology check. )
Dave Bristle
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PO of 1985 C-25 SR/FK #5032 Passage, USCG "sixpack" (expired),
Now on Eastern 27 $+!nkp*+ Sarge
Edited by - Stinkpotter on 03/11/2018 08:02:19
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Steve Milby
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Response Posted - 03/11/2018 :  08:23:42  Show Profile
I'd guess he was referring to the width of the finger pier.
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islander
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Response Posted - 03/11/2018 :  08:23:47  Show Profile
I hope he means the dock finger...if not yea I agree that could be a little rough.
Scott-"IMPULSE"87'C25/SR/WK/Din.#5688
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Stinkpotter
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Response Posted - 03/12/2018 :  06:36:06  Show Profile
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Originally posted by Steve Milby

I'd guess he was referring to the width of the finger pier.
Me too... But as his PO, I have to make sure he's getting things straight.
Dave Bristle
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odonnellryanc
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Response Posted - 03/12/2018 :  06:49:54  Show Profile
Haverstraw bay really is a great place to day sail or even spend the night at anchor. Water is very warm, actually! Not too many obstructions in the area, so you can sail wherever you like for the most part. Area is protected, so there's less wind than downriver, but you can still get some exciting conditions.

I can't imagine our floating dock is more than 36" wide. It just barely fits the cart. Maybe an inch or two clearance on each side... We usually leave it on the connecting dock and lug unless we need to throw the outboard in it. If that's the case we make sure to be extra cautious..!
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Voyager
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Response Posted - 03/12/2018 :  14:11:13  Show Profile
Ahem, the United States Access Board (.gov) defines a boat slip as

A boat slip is the portion of a pier, main pier, finger pier, or float where a boat is berthed or moored, or used for embarking or disembarking.

Here's the story about. https://www.access-board.gov/guidelines-and-standards/recreation-facilities/guides/boating-facilities/boat-slips
Bruce Ross
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islander
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Response Posted - 03/12/2018 :  14:25:13  Show Profile
Well I'll be...It appears we stand corrected.
Scott-"IMPULSE"87'C25/SR/WK/Din.#5688
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Stinkpotter
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Response Posted - 03/13/2018 :  08:45:41  Show Profile
That entire regulation refers to "piers" and "slips" where the dimensions and characteristics of the piers define the size and/or number of slips that are or must be available for boats. The diagrams and table also make that clear. Nowhere does it say a finger pier, in and of itself, is a slip.

Example: "If boat slips at a facility are not identified or demarcated by length, each 40 feet of boat slip edge along the perimeter of a pier will be counted as one boat slip."

(Note: It's snowing like stink here, and I was bored... )
Dave Bristle
Association "Port Captain" for Mystic/Stonington CT
PO of 1985 C-25 SR/FK #5032 Passage, USCG "sixpack" (expired),
Now on Eastern 27 $+!nkp*+ Sarge
Edited by - Stinkpotter on 03/13/2018 08:47:49
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