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RichardG
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Initially Posted - 02/26/2018 :  12:41:20  Show Profile
Just installed new lifelines. Here are a couple of the old terminals.

Looks like I dodged another bullet.


RichardG 81 FK/SR #2657
Terminal Island, CA

RichardG
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Response Posted - 02/26/2018 :  12:58:53  Show Profile
New ones are safer.


RichardG 81 FK/SR #2657
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Dave5041
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Response Posted - 02/27/2018 :  22:08:47  Show Profile
I'd say they were about due for replacement.

Dave B. aboard Pearl
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jerlim
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Response Posted - 03/09/2018 :  14:14:22  Show Profile
Mine look like that. I'm going to replace them with CS Johnson replacement hardware and spliced on double braided line.
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Voyager
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Response Posted - 03/09/2018 :  19:10:34  Show Profile
Call me a complete cheapskate but I recently replaced my rigging. I’m going to measure up my old lifelines against my upper shrouds. Maybe they’ll fit.
Bruce Ross
Passage ~ SR-FK ~ C25 #5032

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Edited by - Voyager on 03/09/2018 19:11:12
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GaryB
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Response Posted - 03/09/2018 :  19:53:04  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by Voyager

Call me a complete cheapskate but I recently replaced my rigging. I’m going to measure up my old lifelines against my upper shrouds. Maybe they’ll fit.

Not cheap, wise!

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GaryB
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islander
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Response Posted - 03/10/2018 :  08:37:48  Show Profile
Bruce, good idea. I have my old set too. A plus would be that the standing wire is 1x19. vs 7x7 wire that I think the lifelines are.
Scott-"IMPULSE"87'C25/SR/WK/Din.#5688
Sailing out of Glen Cove,L.I Sound


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Voyager
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Response Posted - 03/10/2018 :  11:12:09  Show Profile
I got some foam pool noodles last year for my stern pulpit that softened the railings up (when I bang my head). I can string up several noodles to cover the wire without encapsulating it in plastic. Anybody suggest another type of foam covering?
Bruce Ross
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islander
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Response Posted - 03/10/2018 :  13:15:36  Show Profile
I don't understand why you would cover them. I was thinking of stripping the vinyl off of mine since that is what causes the rust and corrosion. Put lifeline cushions on the gates to finish the look and your good to go.
Scott-"IMPULSE"87'C25/SR/WK/Din.#5688
Sailing out of Glen Cove,L.I Sound


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bigelowp
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Response Posted - 03/10/2018 :  14:26:09  Show Profile
I replaced my lifelines two years ago. The "originals" (I presume they were) had vinyl covering. When I replace them I only put vinyl where they open and I lean so now I can inspect most very easily. When I removed the vinyl from the old ones it was very revealing -- the wire was rusted and clearly needed to be replaced. The cost to replace, I believed, was well worth it for the safety. I question how much could/would be saved by repurposing shrouds as the swaging can be tricky and costly.
Peter Bigelow
C-25 TR/FK #2092 Limerick
Rowayton, Ct
Port Captain: Rowayton/Norwalk/Darien CT
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islander
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Response Posted - 03/11/2018 :  07:36:21  Show Profile
CS Johnson sells hand crimp hardware for lifelines. Your shrouds have the turnbuckles so all you would have to buy is 2 gate hinges and 2 pelican hooks and the crimp tool. If you don't mind the lifelines going slack when you open the gate then you don't need the hinges.
Scott-"IMPULSE"87'C25/SR/WK/Din.#5688
Sailing out of Glen Cove,L.I Sound


Edited by - islander on 03/11/2018 07:42:49
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RichardG
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Response Posted - 03/12/2018 :  16:55:34  Show Profile
I considered getting the type without the vinyl coating, but chose otherwise for aesthetic reasons. I got about 37 years out of the old ones, and if these last half that long, I should be good. I also reasoned (wisely?) that any failure will probably be at the terminals, which are uncovered either way.


RichardG 81 FK/SR #2657
Terminal Island, CA
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Voyager
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Response Posted - 03/12/2018 :  21:32:35  Show Profile
There's always that rubber dip stuff for treating the ends of your plier handles and screwdrivers. There's probably a way to paint that stuff on if you really want to coat the wires. I seem to recall that you can purchase plastic wire coverings from an electrical supply house. And there's the corkscrew cable management cable dressings for AV equipment, usually white that wraps around a bundle of video and audio cables to keep the chaos down in your man-cave TV wiring. White electrical tape spiraled over the cables would probably do until the adhesive dried out. Or you could keep them bare wire...
Bruce Ross
Passage ~ SR-FK ~ C25 #5032

Port Captain — Milford, CT
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islander
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Response Posted - 03/13/2018 :  05:44:35  Show Profile
If you want to cover the lines or certain sections WM sells vinyl cable covers in 6ft sections. I have a few on the lower part of my shrouds wherever I have hand or head contact with the cables. They also protect the headsail. Inexpensive too.https://www.westmarine.com/buy/davis-instruments--snap-on-cable-covers--P002_065_007_002?pCode=107615
Scott-"IMPULSE"87'C25/SR/WK/Din.#5688
Sailing out of Glen Cove,L.I Sound


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