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C25BC
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Initially Posted - 05/09/2018 : 20:04:34

Has anyone come up with a solution to keep those tables in the traditional interior from flipping up when you lean on them ? ( short of removing them , which is a consideration ) . I was checking out Search mode and didn't find much .

Angus
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sethp001
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Response Posted - 05/09/2018 : 21:29:14

You can get a kit from Catalina Direct. A cheaper option is to get a Dutch door bolt latch from your local hardware store. Install the bolt latch under the table, near the support tang that tends to pop out. Make a hole in the bulkhead into which the bolt can slide. The hole doesn�t need to go all of the way through to the head, especially since these always come with metal strikes.

Seth
"Outlier" 1987 Catalina 25 SR/SK/Traditional Interior #5541
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OLarryR
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Response Posted - 05/10/2018 : 04:15:49

OKay...Here is the story. I built an extended bunk on the short cabin seat side, adjacent to my galley/stove. The bunk extension works great on that side, leaving easy access from companionway to the VBerth area. However, you lose the spot for the table support leg. That was okay by me since I hated that table. It's only positive attribute was that it was long. But you had to take it off the bulkhead wall, slip it into the support brackets and then there was the flipping out of the support brackets, unless you had the kit that kept it secured. So, I had two issues - I wanted a swing down table and I needed to resolve what to do about supporting the table minus the support leg that would interfere with my extended bunk.

The solution was my swing down suspended table. It utilizes clips that attach to the cabin pop top edges. All the details/write-up of my swing down suspended table are on my website. Below are some photos of the table and storage shelf improvement.

Larry
'89 Robin's Nest#5820, Potomac River/Quantico, Va
http://catalina25.homestead.com/olarryr.html

hewebb
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Response Posted - 05/10/2018 : 04:25:46

Here is what I came up with. I store it on the toilet side of the bulkhead when not in use.

https://www.catalina-capri-25s.net/cgi-local/MBR_gallery.cgi?Album+2095+73

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Edited by - hewebb on 05/10/2018 04:26:37

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Response Posted - 05/10/2018 : 14:53:38

Here's what I did. Hope the link works. If not, it's in the projects section of the photo features under "Tango table project."

https://www.catalina-capri-25s.net/cgi-local/MBR_gallery.cgi?Album+2166+93

Solomon Smith
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Petoskey, Michigan

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Response Posted - 05/10/2018 : 18:03:02

Excellent solutions , Thanks
How deep are you able to make the cabinets behind the table ?

Angus
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OLarryR
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Response Posted - 05/11/2018 : 04:07:51

The cabinet depth is really optional. My thought was that I could place the cabinet against the bulkhead and not really affect usable table space since even if you were sitting against the bulkhead, the first 5"-6" you would not utilize since your shoulder takes up some room. Just the opposite thinking applies to the outer usable edge of the table. You can utilize a swing down table that is shorter than the original table because 2 people can still sit down and have table space to work with as the second person may sit with shoulder slightly past outer table edge but still has plenty of usable table room.

My website has most cabinet/table details, although, I just noticed that the wood stock and dimensions for the cabinet sides are not listed in my parts list...but you can deduce the dimensions from the other wood stock listed. For example, the table is fastened with hinges to the wood stock that forms the bottom of the cabinet. That wood stock is actually 2 pieces of 3" x 3" wood stock. Bolted together, dimensionally they are 5 1/2" out from the bulkhead. The table leaves are each 3/4" thick finished plywood. When the leaves are folded together and swung up flush against the cabinet,the folded table takes up approximately 1 1/2" from the 5 1/2" bottom cabinet support. That leaves approximately 4" for the cabinet depth.

On my website, there is a photo on the cabinet & Table Improvement page (toward the bottom of the page) and that provides a view of the cabinet side view - You can see how everything fits alongside the bulkhead. I believe the cabinet edge is approximately flush with the mast column outer edge.

By the way, a detail not shown in the photos is that I attached a mini-cam cleat to the upper edge of the table to secure the table in the folded up position against the cabinet.

Larry
'89 Robin's Nest#5820, Potomac River/Quantico, Va
http://catalina25.homestead.com/olarryr.html

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Response Posted - 05/12/2018 : 06:46:38

quote:
Originally posted by hewebb

Here is what I came up with. I store it on the toilet side of the bulkhead when not in use.
When I was sitting in the boat a couple weeks
ago trying to figure out a solution, some kind of wood stop was one of them . The idea of drilling holes right through and snapping it in the other side of the bulkhead is a great one and really makes things simple .

https://www.catalina-capri-25s.net/cgi-local/MBR_gallery.cgi?Album+2095+73

https://www.catalina-capri-25s.net/cgi-local/MBR_gallery.cgi?Album+2095+73

https://www.catalina-capri-25s.net/cgi-local/MBR_system.cgi?VM+2095-3756

Angus
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bigelowp
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Response Posted - 05/12/2018 : 16:27:18

Over the years I have thought about having a new table made out of lighter weight teak veneer plywood and then hinging it on the bulkhead, It would be smaller than the current one, but then again I rarely would need a table that size. However, it is all theory as I have not followed through on the plan!

Peter Bigelow
C-25 TR/FK #2092 Limerick
Rowayton, Ct
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Response Posted - 05/12/2018 : 21:58:06

I hear that , I've been looking for a teak end table or coffee table on Craigslist to modify . Now there all " Mid Century Modern " and $500 + , 20 years ago you couldn't give them away l

Angus
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Response Posted - 05/13/2018 : 18:03:20

If one of you guys were to market these I'm sure you'd get a few buyers!

I have been envying Larry's for the past year (I believe it was yours I saw a while ago) and I envy it a bit more each time we sit down while anchored.

Would not think to use the current table under sail in any conditions, but I bet you could use yours.

OLarryR
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Response Posted - 05/14/2018 : 03:34:27

My table could remain set up during sailing but in practice, I store it. Storing it is very easy as it ia a swing down and is supported in the stored position utilizing a small line and small cam cleat.

I mainly went with a suspended table since my extended bunk blocks the area where the table support leg would normally drop down onto the bilge cover. (I can easily remove 3 slip down carriage bolts from my extended bunk side frame that slip into 3 support legs, then remove the support legs, if I want to inspect the bilge.)

If you do not have a bunk extension on the port side, then you have the option of using the suspension set up or attach the old table support leg onto the new swing down table. The support leg should hold the table securely and the other end of the table held firmly attached to the bulkhead.

This past year, I replaced all my upholstery. I will have to take some photos. Now the bunk extension and all interior cushions are of same fabric/color.

Larry
'89 Robin's Nest#5820, Potomac River/Quantico, Va
http://catalina25.homestead.com/olarryr.html

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