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AndyR
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Australia
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Initially Posted - 03/09/2004 :  07:19:50  Show Profile
Hi everyone I'm Andy in melbourne australia owner of cat 25 'flying fish' (love the boat) This winter I want to store it (wing keel) off the trailer so I can clean the bottom properly. I was thinking of resting it on the keel supported by 4 poles on adjustable chains hanging down to the deck to balance the boat. Is this OK? any one tried this? Thanks
Andy n Barb "flying fish"

AndyR
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cvwall
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Response Posted - 03/09/2004 :  08:25:35  Show Profile
Andy, buy or rent some portable jackstands. Rest the weight on the keel (blocked, of course), then use the jackstands to support the hull. Use chain between the jackstands to keep them from moving once they're placed and the pads adjusted. You can move them to access the hull under the pads by setting up a spare stand next to the one you want to move. By doing this one at a time you can prep and paint the covered areas once the rest of the bottom is done.

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lcharlot
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Antigua and Barbuda
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Response Posted - 03/09/2004 :  08:36:04  Show Profile
Andy - The weight should be about 85% on the jackstands and 15% on the keel. Also, do you know how your boat got to Australia? Was she sailed there on her own bottom or carried as deck cargo on a freighter or container ship?

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osmepneo
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USA
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Response Posted - 03/09/2004 :  09:32:20  Show Profile
Andy, welcome to the family, its good to know that our babies are downunder!

It would be interesting if she was sailed there on her own bottom, as Larry asked.

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dlucier
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Virgin Islands (United Kingdom)
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Response Posted - 03/09/2004 :  12:45:23  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by lcharlot</i>
<br />Andy - The weight should be about 85% on the jackstands and 15% on the keel...<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">

Larry, I think you got this backwards...the boat's weight should be resting on the keel when using boatstands.

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rford
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Response Posted - 03/09/2004 :  13:04:23  Show Profile
Which is it, keel or stands?

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Frank Hopper
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Pitcairn Island
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Response Posted - 03/09/2004 :  14:30:05  Show Profile  Visit Frank Hopper's Homepage
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by rford</i>
<br />Which is it, keel or stands?
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Why its slings of course!

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Leon Sisson
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Response Posted - 03/09/2004 :  15:15:43  Show Profile  Visit Leon Sisson's Homepage
As Charles Wall described, most of the boat's weight should be supported by the fixed keel resting on heavy blocking. Just enough weight on adjustable boat yard stands to stabilize the boat.

Swing keels should not be subjected to any of the boat's weight. Around here, swing keel boats are blocked up using four steel oil drums supporting two heavy wooden beams just ahead of, and behind, the swing keel trunk. This provides access to the keel for servicing. At least one or two pair of adjustable yard stands are added to stabilize the boat.

-- Leon Sisson

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AndyR
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Australia
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Response Posted - 03/09/2004 :  18:42:28  Show Profile
Thanks everyone for the good advice. I cant get that sort of instant help with my car... We are the third owners of 'Fish' and have met the previous two. She is in excellent condition inside and out fitted with a universal diesel which runs like new. I understand she was shipped out here. There are several 25's in charter or ex-charter on our gippsalnd lakes (3hrs drive East of Melbourne- wonderful sheltered freshwater cruising) We sail mainly on Port Phillip Bay which is relatively sheltered waters. I believe 'Fish' has crossed Bass straight to Tasmania as its only ocean voyage. again thanks everyone.

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dlucier
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Virgin Islands (United Kingdom)
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Response Posted - 03/09/2004 :  20:08:06  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by rford</i>
<br />Which is it, keel or stands?
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[url="http://www.boatstands.com/howto.htm"]How to Chose and Use Boatstands[/url]

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