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John P
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Initially Posted - 08/14/2005 :  22:30:53  Show Profile  Visit John P's Homepage
So, last Tuesday, I was motoring back into the marina and smacked into something submerged, but the boat went over it. Saturday, I was out sailing and found a nice island to anchor off of. I went for a dive to check for damage. I pulled a 3.5" x 2" piece of glass/mat/whatever from the leading edge of the keel, about halfway down it. I could not tell if the Keel is exposed, but I feel it is. Obviously, the sooner I pull the boat the better, but I am wondering how much more damage will be done by leaving it in the water for another 2 months.

I suppose, that obvious of the fact that it has been in the water for 5 days now, exposed, there is the need to pull it and allow provisions for the damaged area to drain.
'84, C-25, SR/FK, #4663, "ILLUSIONS", Chazy, NY (Lake Champlain)
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thaind
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Response Posted - 08/16/2005 :  20:08:41  Show Profile
You live in a cold zone, and could end up with the same problems that I encountered with my new to me C25 last winter. Water will by now have soaked into the keel/hull joint and probably into the plywood stiffener between hull and liner. This will freeze and expand in winter causing increased deterioration of outside joint and bilge on inside. I suspect that when you do lift it, this area will have to be thoroughly dried. I perforated the bilge/stiffener area from the inside, dried it for three months in my heated 0% humidity Canadian shop, and filled with epoxy.

Good luck, and you have crazy winds, was there last week.
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Douglas
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Response Posted - 08/16/2005 :  21:46:36  Show Profile  Visit Douglas's Homepage
Do you have insurance ? Boat U.S. ? If so file a claim and use what your paying for. If not then haul the boat, inspect the damage. If water has entered the steel skeg section of the fin keel drill a few holes into it for drainage. Below the damage and mabe on the bottom if need be. The holes are easy to fill later. Drain her out and let it dry out in good weather or use a heat lamp . Repair the damage and fair it in with fairing compond . Paint with a two part epoxy and re finish with bottom paint .
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Steve Milby
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Response Posted - 08/17/2005 :  08:24:40  Show Profile
I vote for pulling the boat out promptly. Until you pull the boat, you won't really know whether the damage is significant or just a chunk ripped off of the surface. From your description, I suspect it's the latter. If so, it should be easy to repair and you could be back in the water in a few days. In either case, you could prevent further damage by getting it out of the water. Your damages should be covered by your insurance.
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Oscar
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Response Posted - 08/17/2005 :  09:14:51  Show Profile  Visit Oscar's Homepage
I assume the others know, so forgive my asking. 25? 250? Wing? Swing? You say a few feet down.....down the hull or the keel itself?

If it's on the keel itself, be it swing or wing (the bolted on part), fiberglass or cast iron or lead........ sail on.......if it's the hull haul....now.

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Oscar
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John P
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Response Posted - 08/17/2005 :  10:03:28  Show Profile  Visit John P's Homepage
The boat is an '84, FK, SR.

The "chunk" is out of the glass on the leading edge of the keel, about half-way down the keel. I plan to haul it on Friday. Then see. Unfortunately, there are not many surveyors up here, but the repair guy at the yard has been around a long time so he can give me some sound advice.

Also, I decided to haul since I am out of town from the 21st to the 31st, so it will give it a lot of time to dry, then maybe I can get back in for a few weeks before the end of the season, but who knows, I may just leave it out and get an early start on that "To-Do" list.
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