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britinusa
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Initially Posted - 08/31/2005 :  21:35:11  Show Profile  Visit britinusa's Homepage
Ok, we are updating the website, can you see the difference.

Tell me if you want a hint!



Joint Decision. (Sold)
PO C250WB 2005 Sail # 841.


Moved up to C34 Eximius

Updated August 2015

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Buzz Maring
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Response Posted - 08/31/2005 :  22:22:40  Show Profile
Hmmmmm ... how 'bout the "topic" arrows in the banner at the top that allow you to go to the previous/next topic ... ... I don't recall seeing those before.

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John G-
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Response Posted - 08/31/2005 :  22:55:30  Show Profile  Visit John G-'s Homepage
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First of all, Kudos to Paul who is picking up the ball from Spike.
I do hope that everyone understands that this is just our forum, a great place for an exchange of information.
However the Association has a great resource in our [url="http://www.catalina25-250.org/frameset.html"]National Association web site. [/url]
Paul is working to make the two entities relate to each other and hopefully everyone who uses this forum will discover the [url="http://www.catalina25-250.org/frameset.html"]National Association web site [/url] and realize that there is a wealth of information and benefits available to them.
If you are just using the forum, discover the [url="http://www.catalina25-250.org/frameset.html"]National Association web site [/url] and if you are not a member go to the [url="http://www.catalina25-250.org/membership_registration.htm"] membership page[/url] and sign up.
You will support the work that goes into this great forum and get all the benefits from our [url="http://www.catalina25-250.org/frameset.html"] web site [/url]as well as a subscription to the [url="http://www.mainsheet.net/"] Mainsheet Magazine. [/url]

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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 09/01/2005 :  07:32:55  Show Profile  Visit Frank Hopper's Homepage
Its a start. I like that frames stay in view, I think that is important. Icons would be "attractive".

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Arlyn Stewart
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Response Posted - 09/01/2005 :  08:33:56  Show Profile
Paul, much thanks to you for offering your assistance with the web site, your efforts are appreciated greatly.

Spike has been endeared by the membership for her service to the association, our gratitude is mucho. Personally, my hat off to any lady that wears as many hats. A job well done for many years.

Not a real big issue, but something I'd like to see happen is a Snitz version upgrade. The latest version should solve my greatest nagging problem of editing... the newer version allows placing the curser where an insert or text form change is desired rather than have it jump to the end and then having to cut and paste it back to where its desired.

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britinusa
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Response Posted - 09/01/2005 :  08:38:42  Show Profile  Visit britinusa's Homepage
Thanks Arlyn, Spike is still involved (she could not escape that easily) her skills are much in need and her experience is way to valuable to cast off.

Not sure I understand your comment on editing though. Would you email me with details and perhaps I can identify the problem.

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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 09/01/2005 :  11:39:31  Show Profile
Looking around, I don't know whether the FAQ link was there before, but I'll suggest that the #1 FAQ is probably how to insert a picture into a post. You might want to add that.

Arlyn: I can't identify with your editing issue--could it be that Mozilla is doing it to you? I seem to be able to insert and edit wherever I want. It used to be that the smilies would only insert at the end, but somehow that got fixed.

Thanks, Paul and Spike, for a great site and your fine service!

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 09/01/2005 :  11:48:25  Show Profile  Visit Champipple's Homepage
Since you guys haven't quite gotten it yet, why don't you try this


Click the refresh button. If that does not work, try clicking this link, then going back into the forum from the forum link on that page

http://www.catalina25-250.org/frameset.html

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Sea Trac
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Response Posted - 09/01/2005 :  12:09:28  Show Profile
That's it, Duane. The frame didn't automatically generate if you were coming into the forum through an old "favorites".

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John G-
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Response Posted - 09/01/2005 :  15:06:06  Show Profile  Visit John G-'s Homepage
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Duane Wolff</i>
<br />Since you guys haven't quite gotten it yet, why don't you try this


Click the refresh button. If that does not work, try clicking this link, then going back into the forum from the forum link on that page

http://www.catalina25-250.org/frameset.html
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Once you have come back to this page from the redesigned [url="http://www.catalina25-250.org/frameset.html"]National Association home page [/url]reset your “Favorites” and direct links to this page with the frame at the top and you will have links to the [url="http://www.catalina25-250.org/frameset.html"]National Association web site. [/url]

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Click on the bird below.
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existentialsailor
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Response Posted - 09/01/2005 :  18:34:12  Show Profile
Sorry to be a poop, but I don't care for frames like that.

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John G-
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Response Posted - 09/01/2005 :  18:54:23  Show Profile  Visit John G-'s Homepage
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Unless I am doing something wrong, which is a distinct possibility, with the
frames you cannot set a "Favorites" or a direct link to the forum page or
any other individual page in the web site.
The only page you can set is the home page.
http://www.catalina25-250.org/frameset.html
All pages and the forum come up with this same URL no matter which page you are
on. If you use the frames to move around the web site including the forum all addresses in the “address” bar are the same. How do we set a link directly to the forum?
I will go back to using a direct link to the forum without the frames as I
like to check into the forum before noodling around the web site.
Is there a way for each page to have a discrete URL and still have the
frames?
Having to go to the home page every time to get to the forum just to have
the frames is not the best solution IMO.
If the frames do work can the "registration" button be changed to "Join" or
"Membership".
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britinusa
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Response Posted - 09/01/2005 :  19:06:28  Show Profile  Visit britinusa's Homepage
Hi John,
you inadvertantly identified the reason for adding the header in a frame.
Many folks that arrived at the forum from search engines never click on the home link.
Hence they were not aware of the many other features of the website.

However, you are correct, it is nice to be able to create a link to the forum so here it is.

[url="http://www.catalina25-250.org/framesetforum.html"]Go here and bookmark the page.[/url]

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John G-
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Response Posted - 09/01/2005 :  19:33:44  Show Profile  Visit John G-'s Homepage
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by britinusa</i>
<br />Hi John,
you inadvertantly identified the reason for adding the header in a frame.
Many folks that arrived at the forum from search engines never click on the home link.
Hence they were not aware of the many other features of the website.

However, you are correct, it is nice to be able to create a link to the forum so here it is.

[url="http://www.catalina25-250.org/framesetforum.html"]Go here and bookmark the page.[/url]
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Thanks Paul.
That works fine.
But does that mean we cannot direct people to various pages and still have the frames on each page?
I am totally for getiing forum users to realize we have a great [url="http://www.catalina25-250.org/frameset.html"]web site.[/url]
As you saw earlier I could not direct sailors to the [url="http://www.catalina25-250.org/membership_registration.htm"] membership[/url] page without bypassing the frames. Is it possible for every page to have a discrete URL?
There are many times that I have directed posters to the [url="http://www.catalina25-250.org/officers.htm"]Officers and Staff page, [/url]to the [url="http://www.catalina25-250.org/tech/tech.html"] Tech Tips page [/url]or specific [url="http://www.catalina25-250.org/tech/tech.html"] Tech Tips [/url]like [url="http://www.catalina25-250.org/tech/tech25/tt023.html"]”Snickerdoodles” bow roller. [/url]
I have a full page of these links to direct people to specific areas of the web site. Should I keep them as they are or is there a way to get the frames in all of them? I am willing to re do all my links but what would the URL’s be?

I'm sure this post shows my total ignorance as to how "frames" are incorporated into a web site. Sorry.

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Arlyn Stewart
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Response Posted - 09/01/2005 :  19:58:29  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Dave Bristle</i>
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Arlyn: I can't identify with your editing issue--could it be that Mozilla is doing it to you? I seem to be able to insert and edit wherever I want. It used to be that the smilies would only insert at the end, but somehow that got fixed.


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Dave, you might be onto something ...

I can go to the Snitz web site forum and can insert ok but not here, which left me thinking it was a problem of an older version and it could be. So, this seems a coding issue that shows up with Mozzilla like the color problem was, which Spike solved.

It has been a year since I discovered it, and I don't recall if I discovered it accidently or read about the fix. It may be that the latest version would solve the problem.

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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 09/01/2005 :  22:19:18  Show Profile  Visit Frank Hopper's Homepage
My only problem with the new frames is that I cannot send a url for a specific thread to someone. I don't care about specific urls for forums but we do need to reference specific threads to share past posts and their information.
Paul, is there a way to have a floating header with out the frames url issue?

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Hmm just played with it a little more. If you right click and open link in new window you still get the pure thread url and therefore copy said url.
http://www.catalina25-250.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=10203

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Gary B.
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Response Posted - 09/01/2005 :  23:45:39  Show Profile
Hey, Brit, can YOU get the 2004 Nationals results on the website? That would be great. Like a bad doctor, I am running out of patience (patients.....get it?)

Gary B.
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Can I help with that, somehow? The results are all posted on the Fleet 94 website.

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John G-
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Response Posted - 09/02/2005 :  00:38:07  Show Profile  Visit John G-'s Homepage
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Gary B.</i>
<br />Hey, Brit, can YOU get the 2004 Nationals results on the website? That would be great. Like a bad doctor, I am running out of patience (patients.....get it?)

Gary B.
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Can I help with that, somehow? The results are all posted on the Fleet 94 website.
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Yes please, let’s get the 2004 regatta posted.
Gary Bruner V.C. 2003-2004 and[url="https://home.comcast.net/~fleet94/2004_nationals.htm"] Fleet #94 [/url]
had one of the most well attended regattas in association history.
Over twenty boats converged on the North West to compete and have a grand time at the 2004 National Regatta.
Their hard work and the success of their efforts are a tribute to a newly formed fleet that stepped forward and showed the association how it’s done.

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Gary B.
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Response Posted - 09/07/2005 :  01:21:32  Show Profile
Cool, JG. And thanks for the plug to get those 2004 results up there on the site.

Gary B.
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mashedcat
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Response Posted - 09/09/2005 :  10:57:09  Show Profile
I didnt used to have to sign in my user name and password to post a reply every time (i did the login, maybe it didnt take). Also someone has removed all the techtips for the c25. Take up too much space?

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mashedcat
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Response Posted - 09/09/2005 :  11:00:05  Show Profile
Disregard the first part of my reply. Tried my signin again and my quick reply box came back.

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 09/09/2005 :  11:11:37  Show Profile  Visit Champipple's Homepage
The tech tips for both the 25 and the 250 have not moved, they are located here - http://www.catalina25-250.org/tech/tech25/tech25.html as they always have been.

The Forum version of the Tech Tips has been removed due to lack of use. Our initial thought was that if we bring the tips into the forum they would be utilized more, however we were not seeing the postings that we would have liked.

The new approach will be as follows –

First, The new frames version of the board give us the ability to easily link to any section of the association website – Something many forum users don’t even know exists.

Secondly, the web editor will attempt to solicit people to write tips based on forum notes, and extract tips from our forum and post them.

Third, we encourage people to reference the tips already in existence when replying to forum posts.

If you haven’t been to the association site, or haven’t been there lately, I encourage you to take a look around. It has changed and will continue to improve. We’ve buffed up the links section, racing section and Cruising section. Have plans for the Tech Tips and hope keep this portion of our organization just as interesting as our forum.

dw

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Response Posted - 09/09/2005 :  19:49:20  Show Profile
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