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cmckitrick
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Initially Posted - 09/12/2005 :  10:11:32  Show Profile
I've asked this before but cant find the post. Which side is the main and which side is the foresail halyard supposed to be on. I thought the jib ran down the port side but I went for a sail yesterday with a more seasoned sailor than me, which doesnt take much, and he thought the main should be on the port and it needed a winch. Thanks.

Charlie McKitrick
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'81 C 25 SR/FK

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mashedcat
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Response Posted - 09/12/2005 :  10:26:00  Show Profile
maybe im missing something, but its your boat. why not rig it the way youre comfortable with it as long as its rigged so that the lines dont foul each other?

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cmckitrick
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Response Posted - 09/12/2005 :  10:42:28  Show Profile
It is my boat but I'm also new at it. I'm just wondering what most people do and what the conventional wisdom is. Either way seems ok to me.

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Leon Sisson
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Response Posted - 09/12/2005 :  10:46:24  Show Profile  Visit Leon Sisson's Homepage
Traditionally, I think headsail controls are to port, and mainsail controls to stbd. If there's only one halyard winch, it's for the jib, and generally on the port side.

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cmckitrick
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Response Posted - 09/12/2005 :  10:58:21  Show Profile
Thats what I thought. Thanks.

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 09/12/2005 :  11:41:07  Show Profile
My mast winch is installed on the starboard side as is the main halyard.

If the C25 Parts Manual can be trusted, [url="http://www.catalina25-250.org/manbro/pictures/pc16.gif"]the halyard winch is mounted on the starboard side.[/url]

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Derek Crawford
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Response Posted - 09/12/2005 :  11:59:35  Show Profile
Probably the safest way is to bring BOTH halyards down the same side (your choice) of the mast and then back to the cockpit. Then you never have to go forward to drop sails - most helpful in shxtty weather!
Derek

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PamC
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Response Posted - 09/12/2005 :  12:41:36  Show Profile
I'm glad you asked this question! Our boat came rigged "backwards" (jib halyard to starboard, main to port), all lines led aft to the cockpit. I've often wondered if it was a problem. Although I gotta tell you it hasn't been for us so far. Other than we don't have a halyard winch which means that I have to route halyards to the jib winches. So if I find I need to tighten the luff of the jib when we're on a port tack either the jib sheet has to fly or the luff has to wait until we're on a starboard tack and free up the starboard winch. Of course if I would pay attention when I raise the jib in the first place and make sure it's tight enough I wouldn't have that problem
The other drawback I can see is if it's common for you have different crew on board, the standard rig arrangement of jib to port/main to starboard would be one less thing for them to get oriented to. Unless you're one of those people with highly developed organizational skills who have things labeled
I like the arrangement of having the main halyard next to the reefing line and the jib halyard next to it's dousing line so they can easily be worked together.

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Gloss
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Response Posted - 09/12/2005 :  13:47:26  Show Profile
Hey Leon
Why would the one winch be for the headsail, rather than the main?

Just curious,

My boat has 4 winches, two on cabin top(#8's, with they were bigger), two for mainsheets (16ST's) Good thing, I won't get confuzed.

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Leon Sisson
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Response Posted - 09/12/2005 :  15:21:43  Show Profile  Visit Leon Sisson's Homepage
Frank G,<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Why would the one winch be for the headsail, rather than the main?<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">This seems to apply to only a narrow size range of boats around 23' to 28' or so. Smaller ones don't have halyard winches; larger ones have a winch available for each halyard. I think the idea is that the halyard is usually the only means of tensioning the jib luff, so a winch is needed to apply final tension. Whereas the main usually also has a cunningham or downhaul which can be used to apply the last bit of luff tension.

-- Leon Sisson

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