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GeorgeB
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Initially Posted - 09/11/2005 : 20:45:30

We pulled Abegweit on Friday.

Took the Admiral and I about two hours to get out of the water and ready to travel. We needed the help of a friend to get the job done. Katerina came through Maine on 9/1 and raised the lake level above my dock. I wanted to take advantage of the high water to pull the boat before they drop the lake to winter pool level in the next week or so. The whole process went really well condisering it was our first time to to put the boat on a trailer ourselves

. Dropping the mast using information gleaned fom this site was a snap.

Only issue we had was pulling the boat far enough forward on the trailer to have enough down pressure on the trailer hitch to have enough traction to get up the gravel ramp

. After I got the boat out I repositioned her further forward.

Any one have any thoughts on how far forward on the trailer a SK should be?

George Barton
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atgep
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Response Posted - 09/11/2005 : 21:42:53

It is hard to get any tounge weight while pulling up the ramp. On mine I carry 500 lbs on the tounge. While going uphill on the ramp the center of gravity shifts way back. I often use a strap to get my trailer deep enough. on the way up the ramp, the front wheel will bounce. I would guess that the CG shift aft equals about 450 lbs. Not much you can do to prevent this.

Tom.

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ClamBeach
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Response Posted - 09/11/2005 : 21:44:34

Which trailer do you have? Trailrite or EZ-Loader? Rollers or bunks?

On my EZ loader I pull the bow eye right up between the two stop rollers on the forward frame (that holds the winch)

>"...enough traction to get up the gravel ramp."

Wait till you get on a ramp covered with seaweed... situations like this are where the 4WD is worth every penny.

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stampeder
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Response Posted - 09/11/2005 : 23:13:27

Get your boat as far forward as possible. Best time to do so is when your trailer is still in the water. At least then you can stay within the load tolerance of your trailer winch. Most trailers have 2,000 -3,000 LB load cables.

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Buzz Maring
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Response Posted - 09/11/2005 : 23:34:52

Hi George,

'Sorry to hear that your sailing season is over, but I'm glad you got your boat out without any hassles.

Here are a couple of things that might help on future haul-outs. First, if you get the boat fairly close to the bow chock(s) on your trailer (i.e. within a few inches), don't sweat it ... simply pull the boat out and away from the ramp, then tap the brakes and the boat will slide forward the rest of the way. I've seen people nearly pull the bow eye out trying to winch their boat the last three or four inches, and it isn't necessary. Also, if you've got any extra people hanging around the ramp, ask some of them to sit in the back of your pickup/tow vehicle right over the rear axle ... that'll help you get better traction.

'Hope that helps a little ... now it's time for you to get going on those winter projects.

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Response Posted - 09/12/2005 : 00:04:17

i've usually kept my boats over the year in the water during the winter. sailing in november ans february can be great! no motorboaters nor anyone else for that matter, usually another occasional sailboat.

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Response Posted - 09/12/2005 : 06:57:32

George, (not knowing how far from gravel to solid ground.) check out the Towrope method.. It might allow you to stay out of the gravel.

FYI, every time we have pulled JD onto the trailer and snugged her up to the bow wedge in the water, for some reason she apparently drops back a couple of inches once out of the water. Next launch (2nd weekend of October) we are going to pay attention to that issue and see if we can figure out why JD seems to shift aft.

Where in Maine are you that you have to pull the boat this early in the year?

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atgep
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Response Posted - 09/12/2005 : 12:26:16

I have the same problem of the bow settling back. I can only assume the winch strap is stretching as the boat is coming up the ramp. The only solution I have come up with is to move the post forward 4 inches and after the boat is high and dry, move the fornt post back to the proper position. It is a real PITA but It is the only way I have figured out so far.

Tom.

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GeorgeB
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Response Posted - 09/12/2005 : 16:47:10

Thanks for all of the inputs. Some of you asked for a bit more information. I have a Triad trailer with bunks. I have about 12" of adjustment in my bow chock. Right now the chock is positioned as far to the rear of the trailer as it will go. Sounds like the consensus is to move the bow chock further forward.

Bye the way, I have the have the same concern that some of you voiced about over stressing the bow eye. I have a tow strap that I run around the stern of the boat and winch on that.

Thanks to all who replied.

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GeorgeB
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Response Posted - 09/12/2005 : 16:50:40

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by 77Gypsy
 i've usually kept my boats over the year in the water during the winter. sailing in november ans february can be great! no motorboaters nor anyone else for that matter, usually another occasional sailboat.
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GeorgeB
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Response Posted - 09/12/2005 : 17:02:30

I'll try this again
<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by 77Gypsy
 i've usually kept my boats over the year in the water during the winter. sailing in november ans february can be great! no motorboaters nor anyone else for that matter, usually another occasional sailboat.
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That sounds great! I had that for a few decades in Tennessee. winter was the only time to get away from the jet skis. If I'm out on the lake in February, I'll be ice fishing. There were 18" of ice over my mooring last February.

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