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Tool for Rebuilding the Barient 18 Winch

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Pokey uh da LBC
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Initially Posted - 11/08/2005 : 10:48:01

Not sure if all the 25 footers use Barient 18's as primaries, but that's what Capri #410 had on her when I bought her.

Now, after a full season of saltwater racing they're growling pretty hard on every tack. They need rebuilding, bad. But apparently a dismantling handle (p/n 01-821) is needed to open the winch.

Anyone know where I can get one of these things?

Thanks,

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Steve Milby
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Response Posted - 11/08/2005 : 18:41:11

If you find out where you can get one let me know. I need one to dismantle a couple of Barients on my boat.

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Auburn80
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Response Posted - 11/09/2005 : 13:59:14

I'm assuming guys that you have confirmed that your winch needs the special tool. Some Barient 18's (like mine) have a circlip at the top of the shaft that allows for disassembly. Also, there's a company in Australia that can provide some parts for these.
If you have determined that you need the tool; I've read that drilling a proper sized hole through a winch handle will allow access to the bolt and allow you to prevent the drum from spinning.
Good Luck!

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Steve Milby
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Response Posted - 11/09/2005 : 16:26:40

My primaries had the circlip, and I was able to dismantle and clean them, but the smaller Barients on the coach roof, used for the halyards, didn't have circlips. I don't remember enough about their construction to describe them, but I studied them long and hard last summer and decided that it would take some kind of a special tool to dismantle them.

Thanks for your suggestion about drilling out a winch handle. It might solve the problem. I'll have to look at the winches again next spring. I wouldn't mind drilling a hole in a cheap $12-15 winch handle if it could be used to service the winches.

Edited by - Steve Milby on 11/09/2005 16:33:00

existentialsailor
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Response Posted - 11/10/2005 : 07:39:29

This information was posted on the Capri 25 group by one of the members:

Most BARLOW winches and some BARIENT winches manufactured from 1983
onward are held together by a RETAINING NUT. This is a 2-1/2"
[63.5mm] outside diameter metal disk surounding the top end of the
mainshaft of the winches. Typically, this Retaining Nut is engraved
with Barlow or Barient and the model number of the winch. There are
also 2 x 3/16" [5mm] diameter holes, 180 degrees opposed, in the top
surface of the Retaining Nut. The winches were originally shipped
with a dismantling tool, which was nothing more then a bend piece of
wire, which was hooked into the 2 holes to unscrew the Retaining Nut.
If this tool is lost - try the following method:
Insert a 3/16" screw or a small screwdriver or similar, into one of
the two holes. Insert your winch handle into the Mainshaft of the
winch and turn the handle against the screw, etc, in the CCW
direction to unscrew the Retaining Nut.
Turn the winch handle in the CW direction to tighten the Reatining
Nut.

Most smaller BARLOW Standard winches and some BARIENT Standard
winches required that a screw had to be removed from inside the
mainshaft, in order to dismantle the winch. Those winches were
originally supplied with a small plastic part, that looked like a
handle with a 1/4" [6.5mm] diameter hole through the center of the
star, through which you was able to insert an allen key to unscrew
the bold, while at the same time stopping the mainshaft from
rotating.
If the original dismantling handle is lost, make your own by
drilling a hole through your non lock-in handle.
You could also use a piece of 5/8" to 11/16" square material
(plastic, wood, steel - anything) through which you can drill the
hole and which you can hold with a shifting spanner, while
unscrewing the bolt inside the mainshaft of your winch.

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Steve Milby
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Response Posted - 11/10/2005 : 09:10:34

Thanks for the info, Rick. Based on your description, I might have the bent wire tool. I thought it was for opening deck fill caps, but it didn't fit. It helps to know what to look for.

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existentialsailor
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Response Posted - 11/10/2005 : 09:56:49

Steve,

Any chance of posting a picture of that "tool" ?

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Steve Milby
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Response Posted - 11/10/2005 : 13:00:13

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Any chance of posting a picture of that "tool" ?<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">Not until next spring. It's in the boat, covered up, on the hard, in Maryland and I'm not going back there until it starts to get warm again.

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Dan86
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Response Posted - 11/11/2005 : 17:45:50

I have the opposite problem on my barients. When under load the entire drum will lift up unless I press on the top. Seems like I am missing a clip or something, to hold them down. I have looked and cannot see where one would go. Any ideas.... Dan

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