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djn
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Initially Posted - 11/23/2005 : 17:10:28

Hi All, for a couple weeks I have been posting questions about a boat I have been looking at buying.....well today I bought it. It is a 1977 25' swing keel, standard rig (I think). It has been used for a party boat for the last two years so I am in for a long winter. All the basics are there is I think it is a good deal. The mast winches are shot so I am putting the cockpit winches on the mast and now looking for self tailing 15s for the cockpit. It has a 9.9 hp Johnson hanging off the back. Has a furling 150% jib.....that and the main are three years old., as is the Johnson. Has a new Jensen AM/FM/CD player with four cube speakers in the cabin and two flush mounts in the cockpit. Has pulpits fore and aft with lifelines, a pop-top. The fridge was gutted and is used now for storage. It has a microwave in place of the stove. New cushons in the cabin, the teak has been referbed in the cabin but needs it on the outside. The bottom needs sanding and paint. The starboard lifeline stantions and stern pulpit are bent over and cracked.

It was named "Reiki" but the old guy sold it to a young guy and the yound guy took of the name decals so it went un-named for a year when he was caught with some young hotty naked in a hot tub. So during he divorce, he sold the boat the the guy I bought it from. That guy named it "La Tina Caleint" ( I think that is spelled right) which in spanish means "Hot Tub"!!!!! LOL

Here is the real kicker, the guy I bought it from is totally broke and let it go for $1,100.00 and I have to pay the marina the $400.00 he owed them.

I want to thank everyone for helping understand what is what when I was thinking about buying it. Cheers. Dennis.

Dennis
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ClamBeach
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Response Posted - 11/23/2005 : 18:27:11

IMHO:

Leave your cockpit winches alone. Instead and put a smaller single winch on the aft edge of the cabintop with a double line clutch just forward of it. Lead your halyards aft with some blocks and a deck organizer and you'll be set for single handing. You can raise and lower the sails right from the cockpit.

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djn
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Response Posted - 11/23/2005 : 18:30:49

Thanks for the tip CB. We are in for about four inches of snow tonight so I think I will have time to get this all figured out. Cheers.

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Buzz Maring
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Response Posted - 11/23/2005 : 20:24:47

CONGRATULATIONS!

Way to go, Dennis ... it sounds like you got a GREAT deal. You're going to love your boat ... welcome to the group!

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djn
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Response Posted - 11/23/2005 : 20:46:22

Thanks Buzz. I have been missing sailing for a number of years and in all honesty, I started pursuing this to just turn the boat in the spring after a long winter of cleaning. Something changed. I starting remembering what I liked about sailing and realized that I really did miss it. Even my wife said to keep the boat and we are already planning trips around the Great Lakes. Cheers.

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PamC
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Response Posted - 11/23/2005 : 20:49:30

Congratulations! We bought our 1980 SK/SR last year about this time - 20th anniversary gift to each other. Warning: the next few months may be excrutiating waiting for your first launch. We don't have any halyard winches and since this is our first sailboat, we don't know any better

When we need extra oomph we run the halyard around a cleat behind a cockpit winch (to lower the angle of approach) and then to a cockpit winch. It's worked fine so far. The only problem is when we want to crank up a halyard that is under load, we sometimes end up waiting until the next tack to free up the winch on the corresponding side so we can use it for a halyard. Not a big deal (although I tend to get antsy I admit). Sounds like a GREAT deal. Nice start to your holiday season. Now everybody knows what to get for you holiday gifts.

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djn
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Response Posted - 11/23/2005 : 20:51:14

Here are a couple pics. I will have more tomorrow. Cheers.

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djn
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Response Posted - 11/23/2005 : 20:58:09

Hi Pam, I went to West Marine yesterday and scooped up a bunch of cataloges and will be handing them out tomorrow after dinner. I use to sail the North Atlantic and I was thinking today, I should have the marine launch the boat, I can handle it...... but then I remembered that I was surrounded by the fifth fleet at the time so it probably not the same. Cheers.

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 11/23/2005 : 21:41:22

Congratulations, Dennis! Nice lookin' boat!

A 25ft sailboat with roller furling, 3 year old sails, 3 year old outboard, and new cabin cushions for $1,500.00???...Awesome deal!

(Geez, you can't buy an inflatable dinghy for that price!)

I fell into a similar situation when I bought my boat and I'm still pinching myself.

"well today I bought it. It is a 1977 25' swing keel, standard rig (I think)."

It's rather hard to tell if it's a standard or tall rig...Looking at the pictures I would say,...judging by the front of the boom, it's a tall rig...judging by the aft end of the boom, it's a standard rig.

Again, welcome to the fleet.

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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 11/24/2005 : 00:43:43

Well done, the Harken mark III cost more than you paid for the boat. Many of us have sites with pictures. I do not know if you have been to my site, there are a lot of pictures of hardware mods to consider. Lewmar 7s are a fine winch for the primary. I have 14 selftailers on my 89 and miss the 7s from my 82. Spend the winter on ebay.

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Buzz Maring
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Response Posted - 11/24/2005 : 10:36:27

... Lewmar 7s are a fine winch for the primary. I have 14 selftailers on my 89 and miss the 7s from my 82. - Frank

How come, Frank? I think a lot of us who don't have self-tailers would like to make the upgrade ... besides the cost, what is the downside?

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atgep
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Response Posted - 11/24/2005 : 10:42:56

You say the primay winches are bad? Have you tore them down and determined they are bad? There are very few parts in our winches that will not outlast us. You may only need a good cleaning and relube. Generally, service parts are available. If you do have to buy new, self tailers are worth the upgrade. Especially if you singlehand.

Tom.

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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 11/24/2005 : 12:55:15

My Lewmar 14st winches have enough added mass and line management parts, (the stripper and the line holding jaws), that they are less efficient than the clean single function 7. Less of your arm effort translates into sail control.
I particularly dislike them when I am singlehanding, I also us larger self tailers on the Catalina 28 I crew on, (I am the grinder), on both boats the tailer jaws spew the tail out unless it is being actively tailed and it is very difficult to payout the sheet due to it's tortuous path around the winch. I have added plastic Clams for when I singlehand so that I can use them as regular winches. Remember that we all sail in our own style, I sail high wind and adjust a lot, I also seldom need the handle unless I have blown the tack or am heading up in high wind.

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tinob
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Response Posted - 11/24/2005 : 13:09:51

Hi Dennis, Looks like my boat when I bought it fifteen years ago. I thought it was a standard rig till I tried running my new Ullman tall mainsail up. Lotsa space above the sail.

Apologized to Gary and sent it back for a tall sail. He was a gent about it and made my embarrazssment tolerable. Didn't have an owners manual and knew nothing about Catalinas. It looks to me that your boat is a tall rig. A standard has walk-a-round space under the boom, you don't seem to have any.

Enjoy

Val on the hard DAGNABIT # 3639

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djn
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Response Posted - 11/24/2005 : 14:25:31

Thank you all for making me feel so welcomed. Also for all the advice, knowledge, and tips. I went out to the boat today to gather the sails, batteries, and cushions. Here are more pics of the boat in the condition I bought it. Cheers and have a great Thanksgiving.

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danandlu
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Response Posted - 11/24/2005 : 16:11:36

Before I purchased my boat I called Catalina with the hull number. They were able to confirm that my boat is indeed a tall rig.

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mmac
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Response Posted - 11/25/2005 : 12:13:57

$1,500 for that boat-what a deal!! Those mast winches should be pretty easy to fix. You can get a kit from West Marine etc. for about 25 bucks. I fixed one of my cockpit winches by cleaning it up and replacing the springs. If I can fix a winch anyone can. Also, I would remove the tiller and stow it below until launch time.

Welcome to the wonderful world of Catalina 25's. This is the best site in the universe to get help to get your boat to bristol condition.

P.S. I can't help you with that white stuff that's coating your boat.

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djn
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Response Posted - 11/25/2005 : 12:45:58

Hi Mike, one of the winches is missing the entire outside. The otherone has a huge chunk out of the outer houseing that would rip the lines up. I plan on moving the halyards to the cockpit with deck organizers and clutches, so I will only need one winch back there. I am going to WM today and will check out whats available. As far as the white stuff.....it is tourture to buy a boat and then wait all winter before enjoying it. I do plan on doing a lot of scrubbing between now and spring.

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Response Posted - 11/25/2005 : 12:54:47

"La Tina Caliente",

Before you go crazy with your credit card at West Marine, you might want to consider the availability of used winches. You could post a want ad on our swap meet here. Also check with professional riggers - they frequently have 'trade in' winches from upgrade installations. (Bacon's and Florida Rigging are two possible sources I can think of.) Used Lewmar 7s should be dirt cheap compared to new Harkens. If you decide to go new, I suggest you check out the stainless steel Anderson(sp?) line.

-- Leon Sisson

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mmac
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Response Posted - 11/26/2005 : 10:59:08

Dennis,
Moving the halyards aft was one of my spring projects. It was the best thing I've ever done to my boat.

I don't know if anybody has mentioned this to you, but Catalina Direct is a great site for parts for old 25's like ours. They're on our links page.

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djn
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Response Posted - 11/26/2005 : 23:04:21

Hi Leon, that is a good idea to post in the swap meet newsgroup.

Mi Mike, I have been looking thourgh the Catalina Direct. Tonight I am prioritizing my wants and needs. There are some things I would really like to do but do not need to, and others, like a vhf radio, that need to be done before I set sail. Cheers

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Response Posted - 11/27/2005 : 04:02:18

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by djn
 There are some things I would really like to do but do not need to, and others, like a vhf radio, that need to be done before I set sail. Cheers
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If you sail on a lake I would consider a VHF to be a very low priority. Unless of course you sail on one of those inland seas that are misnamed as lakes! VHFs are just social toys on a lake like mine.

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djn
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Response Posted - 11/27/2005 : 08:47:03

Hi Fhopper, the boat is on lake Huron and we are already planning a trip over the top of Michigan and into Lake Michigan to vist our daughter in Travers City. I agree that in most lakes a radio is not that neccassary especially when cell phones work just about anywhere not. Cheers.

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boatgt
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Response Posted - 11/28/2005 : 16:49:55

I have a C25 parts boat that still has the cockpit winches. I will have to look again to see what size they are but can let you know. I was going to wait till spring to sell anything off of it but am pretty sure I’m not going to replace my current winches.
Thanks
Gene

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djn
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Response Posted - 11/28/2005 : 17:11:31

Hi Gene, sound great. It warmed up today but that won't last, so I am in no rush. I also need to replace four lifeline stantions is you have any spares of those. Cheers.

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boatgt
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Response Posted - 12/04/2005 : 23:48:21

Hey Djn,
I checked and they are both Lewmar 7. I have good stantions as well. I am goig to sell off what I don't need, just wanted to make sure I don't need it first! email me at boatgt@yahoo.com
Thanks
Gene

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