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pwhallon
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Initially Posted - 12/10/2005 :  13:39:53  Show Profile
http://www.boattraderonline.com/addetaildriver.html?81966214

Why do people let them go. Check out the mold and mildew.

PW
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Lightnup
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Response Posted - 12/10/2005 :  13:51:28  Show Profile
Wow, what a mess. They'd be better off showing it without any cushions.
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At Ease
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Response Posted - 12/10/2005 :  14:32:24  Show Profile
"This boat is half price!" Well no kidding.

Never ceases to amaze me the number of boaters (both sail and power) who never touch their boats all summer. The boats just sit there getting moldy and covered with green crud and the owners just keep paying their monthly slip rental fee.
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dlucier
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Response Posted - 12/10/2005 :  14:38:08  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by pwhallon</i>
<br />This was once a beautiful boat

Why do people let them go...<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">

So people like me can buy them for pennies on the dollar!

My first boat, a Venture/Macgregor 25, looked a lot worse than that when I bought it. She had a layer of moss on her that looked like shag carpeting. Because of this level of neglect (not abuse), I was able to get the boat for a song and it shined up wonderfully.

My next boat, my current C25, was bought the same way. The owner hadn't sailed her in awhile and she looked like a wreck from having sat in his backyard under the trees (and a million birds ) for a few years. This boat was fully loaded with every factory option, including roller furling, and the original owner had done all the upgrades (spreaders brackets, balanced rudder, chainplates,...etc). It also had a near new motor with only a few seasons on it.

Needless to say, because of this neglect, I was able to get it for relatively nothing (I sold my barebones vintage 70's Venture/Macgregor for more than I paid for my newer, heavily optioned C25) and the C25 shined up beautifully.

Not a day goes by that I don't look at eBay, the classifieds, local boatyard listings...etc, for my next diamond in the rough!
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OLarryR
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Response Posted - 12/10/2005 :  19:19:00  Show Profile  Visit OLarryR's Homepage
I looked at the first photo and it did not look that bad. Then the closeup shot of the deck/cabin - not good. The interior shots..well ...sometimes the way a snapshot is taken does not show the best angles, etc but the close up on those drawers - yuck ! It's not like they were offering the boat for a bargain price. I would be surprised if someone offers close to the asking the price. Lot's of work has to be done to give it the feel-good feeling.

Larry
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atgep
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Response Posted - 12/10/2005 :  22:17:59  Show Profile
As long as the deck is not rotten, it should be very restoreable. With all the deck leaks, I would look pretty darned close at that first.

Tom.
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Champipple
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Response Posted - 12/12/2005 :  08:02:44  Show Profile  Visit Champipple's Homepage
I'll spare you guys the swamp story for the 44th time, but that thing is a dream compared to the wasp when she was found
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djn
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Response Posted - 12/12/2005 :  10:34:24  Show Profile
I looked on eBay last night and there is a first wave of sailboats from the Hurricane regions the a guy can get for a song. In one case, you would have to know how to glue the boat back together. Cheers.
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John P
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Response Posted - 12/12/2005 :  12:29:30  Show Profile  Visit John P's Homepage
A guy at my marina (actually one of the owners) bought a, now beautiful, C-34 that was sitting idle on it's cradle for 4 years. He bought it for $3K. Said the interior had a wicked stench with mold/mildew everywhere, but everything cleaned up very nice.

I wish I had a before and after shot of mine recently. When I last left it, the interior looked like a tornado hit it. There is dirt and debris everywhere, yet this summer it was a thing of beauty. Why the change? I removed all exterior/interior cabinway teak, all cushions, carpet etc.. Now it just looks empty, dirty, lonely....I can not wait for spring!!!
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Ericson33
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Response Posted - 12/12/2005 :  18:52:30  Show Profile  Visit Ericson33's Homepage
Thats nothing, Our first sailboat was a 1975 San Juan 24. When I got onto her and opened the companionway locker she had water up to your knees, and she was black with mold everywhere, at least you can see the fiberglass on this C-25. It took me 2 months of cleaning to get the mold out, I finally took her to the truck car wash, opened her up and spent a good hour spraying mold. I had at least 55 5 gal buckets of water to dump out. Looking back I would have never bought a boat in the shape she was in. 8+ years on a mooring and no one ever touched her. It is a sad thing, we have members at our club who just use the club for storage. I would guess we have a 30% activity rate in the summer. Most of the members are getting older, and don't find the time as they did once before. As another member stated, If everyone came out at the same time to go and sail it would be a nightmare. 450+ members, I just am glad they keep stocking our beer keg :)
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Kip C
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Response Posted - 12/12/2005 :  20:00:11  Show Profile
I'm with Don, I love looking for a diamond in the rough. Whether it's cars, boats or homes, I enjoy bringing stuff back to life. As the saying goes " One man's trash is another man's treasure . . .or to some, pleasure!"
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boatgt
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Response Posted - 12/15/2005 :  01:45:37  Show Profile
Has anyone had any luck painting the interior fiberglass? I have some spots near the floor on mine where water has sat that are badly stained. I tried many different solvents with no luck. I was either going to paint the interior or put wood veneer over it. I have a C25 I bought for parts that someone used some veneer in the interior and it looks pretty good.
Gene
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Bubba
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Response Posted - 12/15/2005 :  19:36:13  Show Profile
Gene, have you tried bleach?
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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 12/15/2005 :  22:27:16  Show Profile  Visit Frank Hopper's Homepage
My Makita orbital is a great machine. I bought some scrubber pads that go on it just like the round sand paper. I would try SoftScrub with bleach with the scrubber pads and see what happens. Sorta like polishing teeth!
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dlucier
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Response Posted - 12/15/2005 :  22:35:01  Show Profile
Gene,

Try toilet bowl cleaner (hydrochloric acid) on the fiberglass stains...I've found this stuff will remove almost any organic stain from the hull and deck.

Just paint it on, wait 5 or 10 minutes, maybe a little scrubbing...and hopefully it'll be gone.

Good luck.
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boatgt
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Response Posted - 12/16/2005 :  02:17:22  Show Profile
Hello, I tried bleach, windex, 409, and some boat fiberglass cleaner(can't remember the name off hand). I didn't want to try anything to harsh for fear of damaging the already stained fiberglass? I will try softscrub next. Thanks for the info!
Gene
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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 12/16/2005 :  03:04:32  Show Profile  Visit Frank Hopper's Homepage
People use EasyOff oven cleaner for a lot of things. I will use it in the spring to remove painted lettering.
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