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mcollard
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Initially Posted - 12/19/2005 :  23:59:17  Show Profile
Hello! I am a C-22 owner who has been thinking of moving up to a 25, and am about ready to make an offer on one in my area. It's a 1983 TR/SK, well equipped, in very nice condition, very clean, with one slight possible exception being the keel. The owner has never inspected the keel pin in the 10 years he's had the boat. I also see a circular area on the keel, forward of the pin, maybe 3" diameter or so, that looks sort of like cloth. I have no idea what it is, and neither does the owner. Is it maybe some sort of repair job? Here are pictures:





Any thoughts would be appreciated, before I plunk down my meager life's savings.

Mike Collard
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1983 TR/SK #4026

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 12/20/2005 :  00:11:51  Show Profile
Hmmm...The circular markings on the keel may have come from long since gone devices used to prevent keel clunking...either that or the keel has ringworm.

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rclift
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Response Posted - 12/20/2005 :  01:51:02  Show Profile
The disks on the forward part of the keel are the ones that Catalina Direct sells to help stop keel from swaying when heeling. They are epoxied on and look like they were installed correctly but painted over with bottom paint. Combined with the new hanger kit it is a pretty effective way of making the keel movement less noticeable. I'm interested in the two thru hulls to the port of the keel. I have an intake and outlet in the same area but they have a mushroom head on them and attached to seacocks. Were these repaired or covered or ???

Most of the rust plumes look normal for our boats and can be cleaned up with relative ease depending on how picky you are about rust. Some of the sailors on this forum have encapsulated the whole keel while most of us settle for cleaning up the worst spots on a yearly basis and repainting. Since the owner hasn't replaced any of the hardware in ten years it is long overdue for a new cable and turning ball. I would also advise a replacement or atleast a torque of the bolts holding the keel assembly. Since there are only four bolts holding that whole assembly you'll want to make sure none of the bolts are stripped or loose.

Good luck on your decision!

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 12/20/2005 :  07:40:43  Show Profile  Visit Champipple's Homepage
Those two through hulls are the depth sounder and knotmeter. I'd consider replacing or at the least removing, cleaning and rebedding them with fresh caulk.

Everything else looks okay. Have you thought about an inspection? or at a minimum finding a friend with a meter to see if the hull is still dry?

dw

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mcollard
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Response Posted - 12/20/2005 :  21:48:45  Show Profile
Thanks for easing my mind, guys. I guess if it gets keel clunk, I just need to use some antifungal creme.

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dblitz
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Response Posted - 12/24/2005 :  18:16:08  Show Profile
I'm new to this forum since I just bought a C-25 FK a few days ago. I do want to mention, as many have, that I found this forum extraordinary prior to purchase and it gave me the "courage" to step up from my O'Day 22. I do look forward to the things I will learn from all of you.
As far as measuring for water content on hull/deck, I want to include info that I came across in case somebody can find it useful:
"In tracing this problem, I have found a way to detect and measure wetness in my deck core. An ordinary ohmmeter (multimeter) can be used to measure the electrical resistance between bolts and screws driven into the core. Where there are no fasteners, small holes can be drilled into the underside of the deck and small finishing nails driven into the plywood. Where the core is very wet, the resistance between any two points is in the 10,000 ohm range. Dry areas show resistance's over 1,000,000 ohms. A resistance of 350,000 ohms corresponded to a moisture test of 14%."
The writer suggests drilling small holes, which I wouldn't do, but I think it should work satisfactorily using the bolts of the deck hardware.

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Bruce Baker
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Response Posted - 12/25/2005 :  13:06:32  Show Profile
When I bought my swinger, I put a pair of zincs on the semi circles. That's probably not the most effective place to put them, but I'll tell you what: my keel does not clunk even a little bit.

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