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dblitz
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Initially Posted - 12/28/2005 : 22:28:09

Just wanted to say hello to everyone and thank you for this great place you've built. It provided me with so much info, I decided to buy 86 C-25 FK #5339 standard dinette inboard diesel (don't yet know whether SR/TR).
I now also own an O'day 22 and am looking forward to getting out there with my big, "new" Catalina.
Of course, I've got a million questions for you, but I'll keep it short for now.
Does anyone have plans/materials list/specs for a cradle that can be taken apart when not in use? Or, does anyone in the NY/NJ area have one that can be taken apart for sale?
Anyone have experience with the universal diesel and any particular cautions regarding use/maintenance, etc?
Looking forward to seeing you on the water soon.

Daniel 86 "Solar Wind" #5339 C-25 FK/SR I/B Diesel

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Tom Potter
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Response Posted - 12/28/2005 : 22:46:52

Welcome aboard!

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 12/28/2005 : 22:52:28

If your looking to take it apart, and I presume that would be for storage, why don't you consider a couple of sets of jack stands. We use 6 currently.

Welcome aboard and be sure to join the association.

Duane

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Kip C
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Response Posted - 12/29/2005 : 12:36:11

Congratulations and welcome aboard,
Call Catalina (818 884-7700) and they can tell you whether you have a tall or standard. I think you can order copies of all the original paper work and manuals from them.

I have a universal inboard and really like it. It's staight forward to work on (changing oil, filters, etc). You can get manuals for it at http://www.marinedieseldirect.com/universal/shopping/. The biggest drawbacks are the space it takes up in the aft berth and it is alittle loud in the cabin. One nice plus, with your fin keel and inboard, you should have one of the most stable 25's out there.

If the boat's been sitting awhile, I would give the engine and fuel system a complete tune up ( change oil, filters, change fuel, clean fuel tank while it's empty, etc). If the engine was running prior to storage, it should start right up. If I understand things right, the Universal is a Kubota (tractor) engine, so they are tough little engines.

Good Luck,

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dblitz
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Response Posted - 12/29/2005 : 12:51:37

Thanks for your responses.
I will get into the engine in the next few days to take care of maintenance.
Someone mentioned to me that those engines have a zinc in the heat exchanger that has to be looked at occasionally. Have you done this?
Also, I can't use jack stands where I store my boat so I wanted to put something together that I could transport in a minivan.
Good holiday to all.
Daniel

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tinob
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Response Posted - 12/29/2005 : 13:18:37

Hi Dan,
Welcome to the forum. You've got one heck of a boat, ENJOY.

Val on the hard DAGNABIT #3936

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Kip C
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Response Posted - 12/29/2005 : 14:12:24

To check the zincs: The zinc looks and doubles as a drain plug on the heat exchanger (horizontal tube on the back of the engine). Remove it, if its flaking, replace it, if not , put it back in. If it is flaking, remove the end caps in the exchanger and clean out any debris.

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Kip C
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Response Posted - 12/29/2005 : 15:09:35

One other tip: ziplock baggies!
Slip one over a filter when removing to try to keep the mess to a minimum.
Also, buy a oil changer. I have the hand operated Tempo model. Makes oil changes easy.

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dblitz
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Response Posted - 12/29/2005 : 22:12:01

Tks for your good wishes, everybody.
Kip, I'm going to go out and get an oil changer and I'll let you know whether the ziplocs kept me from being a total klutz.
One question:
When I haul the boat, the hoist in my club works much better with the backstay down
I understand that the backstay can be released without danger of the mast coming down. Is that correct?
Happy New Year to all.
Daniel

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DocNeon
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Response Posted - 12/30/2005 : 05:59:51

Not sure what type of hoist/lift set up would necesitate releasing the back stay but I would sure be more comfortable using the main halyard secured somewhere at the stern (rail perhaps?)as temporary support. Did that when we installed the bimini.

As far as diesel info..I'd also suggest Joe Demers at Sound Marine Diesel..He helps many on the C30 list, myself included, and is very knowledgeable. www.soundmarinediesel.com

Congrats on your C25..Great Boat. I owned #5541 for many years

Mark
www.sailboatlogos.com

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Steve Milby
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Response Posted - 12/30/2005 : 07:26:07

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">I understand that the backstay can be released without danger of the mast coming down. Is that correct?<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">That assumes that your rig is tuned correctly for cruising. If the aft lowers have enough tension on them, they will hold the mast up with the backstay disconnected. Racers, especially with adjustable backstays, often leave their aft lowers very loose. Many cruisers sail with rigs that are generally too loose. Unless you're very certain that your rig is tuned correctly for cruising, it would be better to use a halliard as a safety back-up.

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Response Posted - 01/02/2006 : 19:31:04

Seems to me if the lift doesn't like the backstay, it won't like the halyard fixed to the stern rail... I'd either snug the aft lowers or drop the mast.

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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 01/02/2006 : 19:58:28

we take our backstay off every time we use our hoist with the mast up. here is a movie of me doing it
http://homepage.mac.com/fhopper/iMovieTheater82.html

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atgep
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Response Posted - 01/02/2006 : 20:33:24

I have to take my backstay off to r&r my bimini top. I take a halyard and tie it off to a cockpit winch. When it comes to the mast, "should" is not a word I like.

My 2 cents.

Tom.

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 01/02/2006 : 22:41:56

Frank is right, the lowers should handle everything in the short time you need to remove the bimini. The halyard cleated to the transom should provide plenty of backup support.

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