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Waterboy
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Initially Posted - 01/25/2006 :  12:18:23  Show Profile  Visit Waterboy's Homepage
I'm considering LED replacements a few of the bulbs in the cabin of the 250. If I haven't mixed the two up, the bulb from the swivel lights near the mast step reads 1141, and the bulb from the horizontal mount fixtures (near the electrical panel) reads 1003.

Is anyone aware of LED replacements for these bulbs?

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Russ.Johnson
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Response Posted - 01/25/2006 :  13:35:36  Show Profile
Here's a similar post from the C250 specific forum.
www.catalina25-250.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=11302

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 01/25/2006 :  16:12:15  Show Profile  Visit Champipple's Homepage
I just read that post. I have the aquasignal series 25 lights and the "festoon" style bulbs are the kind without the pointy ends. Forgive me for not knowing the proper lightbulb terminology fo the style I have. Your lucky I know what the heck Festoon is.

I looked on line for a replacement style bulb that I could reference back to the site listed in the post above but couldn't even find any reference to them. (which is rare for me)

Does anyone know what kind of LED I'd need? I've got the cabin lights under control, as I don't have any festoon types (I like that word, incidentally)

I'm also a bit confused, if I put a LED bulb into my nav lights, am I going to shine bright enough? the reference post above says they need two bulbs for the brightness of one.

Looking for a little help here.

dw

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Jonathan Cuff
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Response Posted - 01/25/2006 :  16:41:43  Show Profile
Check out www.seasense.com They have some great LED products. I've ordered several of the #50023850 to replace cabin lights. Last time we stayed on the boat the interior lights killed the batteries.

Ancor Marine have some new festoon LED lights but they don't recommend them for nav lights.

Cheers Jonathan


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Turk
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Response Posted - 01/25/2006 :  17:03:46  Show Profile  Visit Turk's Homepage
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Duane Wolff</i>
<br />I just read that post. I have the aquasignal series 25 lights and the "festoon" style bulbs are the kind without the pointy ends. Forgive me for not knowing the proper lightbulb terminology fo the style I have. Your lucky I know what the heck Festoon is.

I looked on line for a replacement style bulb that I could reference back to the site listed in the post above but couldn't even find any reference to them. (which is rare for me)

Does anyone know what kind of LED I'd need? I've got the cabin lights under control, as I don't have any festoon types (I like that word, incidentally)

I'm also a bit confused, if I put a LED bulb into my nav lights, am I going to shine bright enough? the reference post above says they need two bulbs for the brightness of one.

Looking for a little help here.

d
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Here is the link:
http://www.superbrightleds.com/cgi-bin/store/commerce.cgi?product=CAR&keywords=&cart_id=1302872.7579&next=50

You need to select "buy" to get here.

I used the Amber 9 LED festoons - they fit fine. While your at it get some red for the center light (1). These are as bright as I've seen out there. Very good quality. They also have replacements for the swivel lights "1156 bayonet" near the mast support in the cabin. I bought the "wide" mode. If you look at the example festoon that changes color when you move the pointer over the color squares below the bulb - it will give you a very good indication of what the colors are. You will notice that the "white" is very cool or almost blue. I don't believe it is very "warm" for a cabin interior. The amber is very nice.

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 01/25/2006 :  19:12:37  Show Profile  Visit Champipple's Homepage
Turk,

I found that site easy enough from the old post. I plan on getting the cabin lites, somebody's post said it took two of the new to equal the light of 1 old, but at a 3rd the power. Does that mean I'll have a dimmer cabin?

My nav lights are aquasignal. Does anybody make an LED for those, and are they bright enough?

dw

ps - i saw the festoons, the aqua signal lights have the flat ends on the cylinder....is there a match in LED?

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RSHOOTER
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Response Posted - 01/25/2006 :  19:55:12  Show Profile
Turk, for the 1156 Bayonet bulbs for the swivel lights how many LED did you use? It looks like you could get 12, 19 or 24 wide. Do they throw enough light to read?

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Turk
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Response Posted - 01/25/2006 :  20:08:49  Show Profile  Visit Turk's Homepage
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Duane Wolff</i>
<br />Turk,

I found that site easy enough from the old post. I plan on getting the cabin lites, somebody's post said it took two of the new to equal the light of 1 old, but at a 3rd the power. Does that mean I'll have a dimmer cabin?

My nav lights are aquasignal. Does anybody make an LED for those, and are they bright enough?

dw

ps - i saw the festoons, the aqua signal lights have the flat ends on the cylinder....is there a match in LED?
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I think I was the one that said they are about 1/2 the light of an incandesent bulb. They are very directional but being dome lights the straight down directional light from the LED'S are pretty good for this use. I tested about 1/10th the power not 1/3! If you add into the mix that they are 1/2 the brightness and you have to leave 2 or domes on for the brightness of one incadesent - you are at about 1/5 the amp hour usage.

If you want to convert your nav lights, you must replace with a type of light that stacks 20-30 lights over a radius of lets say 180 degrees inside your lenses. That may require a total refit. Here is a site that shows a conversion that was done for one boat. Remember the leds are very directional and you need to spread many of them out over a radius to be seen from the side. The comercial LED nav lights (red Green) are truly outstanding for brightness but they currently are charging $300 for one light! Make your own.

Here is the link:

http://www.bebi-electronics.com/serving/owl_namu_suggestions.html

Check out the rest of the site. I bought a Beke light for my cabin also. I bought it with the long cable so I could move it around inside or take it up on deck and hang from the boom or hoist up the mast. It can be a steaming light if I want.

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RSHOOTER
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Response Posted - 01/25/2006 :  20:14:39  Show Profile
Turk, for the 1156 Bayonet bulbs for the swivel lights how many LED did you use? It looks like you could get 12, 19 or 24 wide. Do they throw enough light to read?

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Turk
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Response Posted - 01/25/2006 :  20:32:43  Show Profile  Visit Turk's Homepage
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by RSHOOTER</i>
<br />Turk, for the 1156 Bayonet bulbs for the swivel lights how many LED did you use? It looks like you could get 12, 19 or 24 wide. Do they throw enough light to read?
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I got one of these 1156-A19 Amber LED bulb. That would be 19 leds - I bought one narrow and one wide. I have not installed them yet but I have put them on the bench to see how bright and I believe you could read from them just fine. I also got a 1156-A24 Amber LED bulb which has 6 leds pointing outword from the base (second picture) I am thinking this might reflect into the cabin light's reflector and add more ambient light overall.





I really need to get out to the boat and install these before I can give all you a difinitive thumbs up on fit and brightness. I will try tomorrow if I am able and will post later.

The best bang for your buck if your looking to save lots of amp hours can be found from the lamp I bought my wife for Chistmas. Here it is:


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djn
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Response Posted - 01/25/2006 :  21:09:42  Show Profile
Hi Turk, I like the looks of the lamp but is there enough light to read by, and don't they emit a smokey vapor? Cheers.

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Turk
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Response Posted - 01/25/2006 :  21:45:41  Show Profile  Visit Turk's Homepage
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by djn</i>
<br />Hi Turk, I like the looks of the lamp but is there enough light to read by, and don't they emit a smokey vapor? Cheers.
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Hmmmm, when I take my wife out to the boat we usually don't read!

No smokey vapors with ultra pure parifin lamp oil. No smoke either.

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