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Frank Hopper
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Initially Posted - 02/08/2006 : 20:38:04

I didn't want this to get lost in the pages of the "new site" thread. In that thread Duane repeatedly states he has done little. It simply is not so. The Affiliates program, the re-write of class rules, the willingness to take on the Capri owners in our association as all these other things were going on; and that is just the beginning. He then commits to host the Nationals and finally decides to drive the rebirth of our site as we move to a new host. Oh, and that whole embroidery thing at our store page; yes, that was him. It is a true privilege to serve on the BOG with Duane.

Three cheers for Duane:
Hip Hip Hurrah
Hip Hip Hurrah
Hip Hip Hurrah

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Leon Sisson
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Response Posted - 02/08/2006 : 20:44:02

Hear! Hear!

I for one am very grateful for Duane's many efforts, and for the work done by all the others who make this website, and this association run as smoothly as it does!

-- Leon Sisson

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 02/08/2006 : 20:57:56

Good job! I say we double his salary.

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 02/08/2006 : 21:34:46

How about instead of doubling my salary, we all vote to subsidize the the vice-commodores trip to nationals, with boat?

Thanks Frank, Don and Leon. I still contend that I haven't really done that much. that way when sh!t breaks I can't be blamed.

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djn
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Response Posted - 02/08/2006 : 21:44:48

Hi Duane, this site would not be much without you. You do a lot. I am looking forward to meeting you at the nationals. The screen looks good by the way, I don't have to scroll sideways now. Cheers.

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 02/08/2006 : 21:49:53

Dennis,

You need to get one of these guys who aren't bringing their boat and get them to race with you.....It will be well worth it....

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Ben
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Response Posted - 02/09/2006 : 06:23:15

Frank H. has hit the nail on the head. Duane's selflessness has improved an already fantastic website and association. His participation, as well as the participation of everyone who is, and has been, a volunteer for the association is what has perpetuated the culture in this association of friendship, open discussion and opinion.

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Buzz Maring
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Response Posted - 02/09/2006 : 07:59:46

Thanks, Duane ... you da' man!

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tinob
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Response Posted - 02/09/2006 : 09:49:54

I'm constantly amazed by the dedication and selflessness of those who are responsible for the fantastic forum that we have. My hat's off to all who do the work of the association. Duane you're the most, thanks.

Val on the hard DAGNABIT # 3936 Patchogue,N.Y.

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DanM
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Response Posted - 02/09/2006 : 10:48:49

You said it! Thanks again Duane.

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 02/09/2006 : 11:32:36

Dan - you need to get someone with experience and race too...The more the merrier, and your right around the corner.

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Derek Crawford
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Response Posted - 02/09/2006 : 12:51:54

"How about instead of doubling my salary, we all vote to subsidize the vice-commodores trip to nationals, with boat?"
Duane - I think that is a great idea for this year. However, normally the Vice-Commodore is responsible for the Nationals and lives close to the venue.
I believe that the Commodore should have his way paid to the Nationals each year (just him - not his spouse) It would be a small reward for a tough year (I know - I've been Commodore of my yacht club!)
Derek

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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 02/09/2006 : 13:14:13

What they all said... My hat's off to Duane, Jim, Spike, Frank, and all who've made this work!

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Steve Milby
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Response Posted - 02/09/2006 : 14:04:05

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">"How about instead of doubling my salary, we all vote to subsidize the vice-commodores trip to nationals, with boat?"
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">The idea sounds good at first blush, but it has a lot of pitfalls. A few years ago, the officers thought they should all be rewarded with a free trip to nationals, so they voted it for themselves. Understandably, the members thought their dues had been misused, and the national association barely survived the episode, leaving hard feelings.

The association can't afford to pay all the expenses of all the officers, so the question becomes, "Whose expenses should be paid, and how much should be paid?" We obviously can't just give someone a credit card and let them decide how much they choose to spend. If not all the officers, then which officer should be the chosen one? The Commodore? The Vice Commodore? It would be good for both of them to attend the national regatta. How about the Chief Measurer? Most of his official duties are carried out at the national regatta. What if the Chief Measurer's main contribution was to measure sails at the national regatta, but other officers actually worked harder and contributed more during the year? (This is obviously not so this year, but, if the national association is going to do this, the officers need to establish a procedure that is fair and that isn't going to cause animosity or injured feelings from year-to-year, in different circumstances.) If the Vice Commodore receives a stipend this year, who will receive it next year, and on what basis will that decision be made?

It's nice if the Commodore or other officer of the National association is present to represent the membership, and to present the trophies to the winners, but, if no officers are there, there's always someone there to attend to those duties.

If you would ask the officers, I'm sure every one of them would say they didn't take the job in the expectation of having their expenses paid to the national regatta.

Instead of paying one officer's expenses, I'd rather see us present a nice plaque or gift to each of the officers each year, commemorating their service. That way, we don't have to decide which one of our deserving officers should receive a stipend.

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MattL
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Response Posted - 02/09/2006 : 14:54:10

Chill out Steve, he's playing wit ya. I think

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 02/09/2006 : 14:58:24

yeah, sort of, but Frank worked hard putting last years regatta together, its time for him to enjoy one

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atgep
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Response Posted - 02/09/2006 : 14:59:47

I have often wondered, How much is the association worth? I am interested in seeing a Treasurers report. Is that something that we publish? If we all knew what was going on with the books, we could vote to perhaps offer airfare to the Officers. That sounds reasonable to me.

Tom.

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 02/09/2006 : 15:19:58

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by atgep
 ...If we all knew what was going on with the books, we could vote to perhaps offer airfare to the Officers. That sounds reasonable to me.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

Hmmm, if I were on the staff with a free ticket to the Nationals, the awarding of the regatta would go something like this, "And the winner to host the 2007 Nationals is...(sound of envelope ripping)...the island of Fiji!

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 02/09/2006 : 15:30:16

as long as you can get fiji to host it!!!

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Sea Trac
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Response Posted - 02/09/2006 : 15:34:07

Hi Tom,

The 2005 year-end financial statements are to be posted with the next TellTale Newsletter in the Members area. However, let me address a few highlights, as relates to part of this discussion.

Member dues are $20 per year, of which approximately $12.50 per year pays for the Member's Mainsheet Magazine subscription, approximately $4.50 pays for the management services associated with processing membership registrations, renewals and magazine distributions, and an average $1.50 pays for association incidentals including webhosting services. That leaves approximately $2.00 per member (current average membership is 650) for contingencies, such as subsidization of any expense overrun associated with the National Championship Regatta. In 2005, the National Championship Regatta expense overrun amounted to $2,000 due to a lower than expected turn-out.

At the current $20 level, the annual membership dues, in aggregate, do not support the addition of any major annual expense, as can be seen. However, with that said, the association currently enjoys a cash balance in excess of $10,000. Where, when and how the association obtained those funds is not known to me, since the only bookkeeping records transferred to me upon my appointment as Treasurer were the banking account numbers.

Speaking personally, I fully support the idea of the association subsidizing the Officers' attendance at the National Championship Regatta, but I also recognize that it is a very thorny issue, as was tactfully presented by Steve. Additionally, without an increase in the annual membership dues, the practice would not be sustainable beyond the first couple of years. However, a full membership vote on both the issue and an increase in dues to cover the expense could resolve the matter.

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 02/09/2006 : 16:34:17

didn't mean to open a can of worms.

dw

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britinusa
Web Editor

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Response Posted - 02/09/2006 : 18:06:46

Duane, I know from experience that the work involved in not only transferring a site but also spearheading the redesign and content update is a huge project.

My proffessional appreciation for a great job.
The same goes to all of you that worked on the project.

Tot Time!

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atgep
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Response Posted - 02/09/2006 : 21:01:15

Thanks for the breakdown.

I have not been able to attend a National yet but think it is a great aspect of who we are. It seems natural that the Officers attend and spread the National Nature of OUR Organization.

Thanks for all the great work, Duane.

Tom.

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 02/09/2006 : 21:11:53

Its a long drive or a short flight Tom; there are a number of boats looking for Crew!!!!!! Check the other post.

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JimB517
Past Commodore

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Response Posted - 02/10/2006 : 13:22:07

I too agree that Duane has done a super job, far and above expectations. Perhaps Duane for Commodore next year?

As to the financials, that will be in the next TellTale. Since no one offered to be Editor this year, it falls to me and I'll get around to it soon.

We used some of that $10,000 surplus to pay a professional to make this new site. Duane was Project Manager.

I don't think the Association should be paying to send its officers to Nationals. As much as I would like to go, I can't afford it.

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 02/10/2006 : 18:58:43

Sell that damn Coranado Jim....

and as for the commodore, thanks but I am running for something else under the platform of---sell this bucket of bolts and buy something that isn't so darn slow and fat.

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