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stewendkos
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Initially Posted - 03/03/2006 :  02:28:28  Show Profile
I only received one response to my question about buying a genoa so I'll re-word it.Do you have a genoa 135 and does it really improve the performance over the 110,and is it worth the investment?
Steve
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Arlyn Stewart
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Response Posted - 03/03/2006 :  06:16:49  Show Profile  Visit Arlyn Stewart's Homepage
Steve, there are light air days when a 110 is inadequate. There are some choices beyond simply considering a genoa. The 110 does pretty well on a c250 beyond 8-10 winds... and underneath that, a light air sail makes better sense than a heavy clothed genoa. Factor in the fun factor of flying a colorful assymentrical spinnacker or drifter/reacher and one of those may make a better choice than the genoa.

If single handing, a drifter is easier to manage than an asymetrical but each can be managed with a sock and autopilot. The drifter will serve more points of sail.

The drifter works really well with the CDI furler because it can use the existing jib halyard. The shaefer furler presents a bit of a problem. Not only is the jib halyard in use, but the furler requires a mast turning block which might interfere with the drifter. If I had the shaefer furler, I'd discuss it with the sail loft, it might be that an asymmetrical would be the choice.

If having the CDI, I think either drifter or asymmetrical are reasonable choices. The asymmetrical requires additional halyard and mast truck crane.

Then again, if local sailing rarely offers heavier air, getting the 110 off may be a reasonable direction.
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moserd
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Response Posted - 03/03/2006 :  11:50:53  Show Profile
I have the 135 on my 2005 WK and live in Alabama. Our typical winds are less than 15 mph. In winds up to 12 - 15 the 135 work just fine without a reef. However I have found than any winds above about 15 requires at least a couple of rolls of the 135 and quite soon a single reef in the main. Maybe I am 'chicken' but I find that without the reefing the heel becomes excessive and boat speed begins to taper off. I have the wheel option which seems to have quite a bit of muscle initially resulting in me pushing the boat too far and my GPS soon indicates a slow down. My thoughts are why lean AND go slow, might as well stay fast(er).

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Robert
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Response Posted - 03/03/2006 :  13:12:11  Show Profile
Steve:
I agree with Arlyn's comments.I sail on a lake that gets some pretty fluky winds in July and early August. I have an assymmtrical spinnaker with a tacker, double spinnaker sheets, a chute scoop an additional cleat on the mast and a snatch block at the base of the mast. I find that even sailing short handed, I get more use out of my set up than others with 135 genoas because once they are set up and the wind increases, they are commited. Their option is limited to rolling up their genoa and losing their sail shape. I can go forward, pull down the chute scoop, stuff the whole thing down the forward hatch and deploy my 110. I can reverse the process just about as easy. What I find is that the genoas are not used nearly as often.
If you consider the cost of a new sail, it seems more practical to think your set up through and spend a little more money to get greater use and enjoyment out of your investment.
Robert
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stewendkos
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Response Posted - 03/04/2006 :  02:48:53  Show Profile
Thank you for the advice.
It's appreciated.
Steve
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