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Internal vs. external halyards

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RichardG
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Initially Posted - 05/17/2002 : 15:15:29

Reading about the "sheaves" topic got me thinking -- What are the advantages and disadvantages of internal halyards verses the advantages and disadvantages of external halyards?

I currently have external halyards. I like them because it seems it would be easier to fix a problem because they are on the outside. Preventing mast banging noise is also thus easier.

RichardG 81 C25 SR/FK "Sanity"

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jm
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Response Posted - 05/17/2002 : 16:02:19

Internal Pros:
-provides UV/weather protection for half of the rope.
-makes things a little less cluttered along the outside of the mast
-less halyard slap.
-a tighter/cleaner transition if your main halyard leads aft to the cockpit.
-only need two sheaves at the mast head.

Cons:
-can impose more wear and tear on the rope because of the potential contact/rub points coming out of the lower mast
-must install conduit and/or trim any internal sharp edges/points
-higher load on a single sheave and sheave pin.

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oldsalt
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Response Posted - 05/17/2002 : 21:56:43

I've sailed my Catalina 25 since I bought her new in '83 and from my experience I'm a big fan of the external halyard setup for this boat. Ease of inspection and maintenance, reliablity and simplicity speak well for the external halyards. For more high tech racering boats, internal halyards and sophisticated masts and hardware are a must if you are to remain competitive, but not so for our vessels. There are some upgrades that are worthwhile; replacing "to hulls" and stemhead fittings that do not connect properly to the hull to name two. A lot of folks are unhappy with the original equipment alcohol stoves for various reasons although if you follow the proper lighting procedures you won't have much trouble with them. I would leave converting to internal halyards at the bottom of my list. Anyway that's my two cents.

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Bristle
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Response Posted - 05/17/2002 : 22:18:00

What Oldsalt said...

Dave Bristle, 1985 C-25 SR-FK #5032 "Passage" in CT

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Response Posted - 05/18/2002 : 20:20:50

A further simplification is that you don't need a winch with an external halyard. Standing at the mast, you can quickly set the main by pulling (jerking) the halyard away from the mast and then cleating the slack. Repeat a few times and the main is nicely set in a few seconds. It's an old trick sailors use.

Andy P.
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