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Frank Hopper
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Pitcairn Island
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Initially Posted - 03/11/2006 : 14:29:13

The paint that you see is bright new copper penny in appearance. My digital camera does not seem to be able to capture the metallic nuance; odd. Many of us use VC 17, my boat has become "personalized" and is not competitive but the ease of VC 17 makes it still the product for me. A foam roller and a couple hours of honest effort and you are done. If you have never seen or touched VC 17 it is hard to appreciate the smoothness of the hull after it is applied. It makes ablative paint look like asphalt.

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djn
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Response Posted - 03/11/2006 : 15:29:27

Hi Frank, that looks great. I am going back and forth about my bottom as the weather gets warmer. As I see you bottom (boat) ;>), I see that mine looks like the surface of the moon. Which means that I need to sand it down and then paint it. Oh well, more decisions. Cheers.

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Kip C
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Response Posted - 03/11/2006 : 16:24:28

Frank, I wish there was a vc-17 color that was as red as your picture. I've been meaning to ask, what did or didn't you do to the grey barrier coat that Catalina put on the late model 25's. In other words, what prep work did you do to it for the vc-17?

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dlucier
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Virgin Islands (United Kingdom)
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Response Posted - 03/11/2006 : 16:55:15

Very nice!!!

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Tom Potter
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Response Posted - 03/11/2006 : 17:14:16

Looks good Frank, I've always liked that copper color.

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Frank Hopper
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Pitcairn Island
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Response Posted - 03/11/2006 : 18:15:56

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Kip C
 Frank, I wish there was a vc-17 color that was as red as your picture. I've been meaning to ask, what did or didn't you do to the grey barrier coat that Catalina put on the late model 25's. In other words, what prep work did you do to it for the vc-17?
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The grey Vinylester bottom on the 89 is supposed to be left alone, you do not sand it. I merely used the Interlux 202 solvent to wipe the bottom down before putting on VC 17 for the first time. That was last july. When I found my boat it had only had one or two layers of good old tin based paint on it and mineral deposits that only happen in Kansas after years of sitting in the water without moving. I used a high pressure sprayer with a pulsing head attachment. It knocked virtually all the paint and deposits off, what was left was scrapped with a plastic scrapper. The grey bottom looked like a mirror, it had never been violated. Next came the wipe down with the solvent and then paint. Today I washed the bottom, scrubbed a few places with a green bottom scrubber, (probably would have used a white one but green was in better shape), and painted. I bought 4 quarts and will finish the third when I hang the boat from our crane and finish the keel and pad spots. I might get into the fourth quart but I doubt it.
This was my boat when I got her.

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frank679
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Response Posted - 03/12/2006 : 14:00:23

Your boat looks awesome. How did you get the hull to look so great? What a shine.

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OLarryR
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Response Posted - 03/12/2006 : 19:51:50

Great job - Looks new top to bottom ! Looks like all you have to do now is sail !

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Ben - FL
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Response Posted - 03/12/2006 : 20:46:42

Wow! That's incredible! Is that the tow vehicle in the reflection?

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Frank Hopper
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Pitcairn Island
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Response Posted - 03/13/2006 : 00:49:45

Yes, that is my trusty Mountaineer,
et es my littl mule

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DaveC25
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Response Posted - 03/13/2006 : 08:21:36

Beautiful boat!

I hope one day mine will look as nice....

-DaveC25

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Alan Clark
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Response Posted - 03/15/2006 : 16:33:21

Frank, GREAT Bottom Job,, Boat Looks AWESOME! You must feel a great amount of satisfaction! Did Catalina put that Vinylester Bottom on the '87 ? I use Micron with Biolux on "Leprechaun" and that seems to work out well . Of Course it is NOT VC17~ we used VC17 On our Catalina 22. No Friction and quick drying!

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FatCatAnna
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Response Posted - 03/18/2006 : 23:06:06

Excellent job!!

Just a quick question, how much paint did you use? I purchased the same paint last fall and the boat shop recommended just a little under a half gallon. We are patiently waiting for the snow to melt and the ice to thaw on the lake here in Montreal, Canada.

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reuben
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Response Posted - 03/19/2006 : 07:37:23

Really impressive, Frank. Last year I helped my brother in law put VC 17 on his Hunter 25 and you're right, it goes on easy and looks terrific. It's tempting to switch from our Interlux Micron ablative, but would mean a lot of sanding & bottom prep which I am unwilling (or at least unlikely) to do. Also, my wife likes the blue! So it's a powerwash and Micron recoat for me this spring...

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seastream
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Response Posted - 03/19/2006 : 19:58:48

The finish on Franks' boat, top and bottom, makes me weep with envy. The boat looks new.

Bob

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weluvlife
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Response Posted - 03/20/2006 : 08:33:23

Hey Frank,

As all have mentioned already, your boat looks simply fantastic. The sides of the haul and of course the vc17 sure are shiny!!!

I use vc17 as well. My boat's bottom looks good, but not quite as smooth as yours!

One thing to note to all of you considering vc17, the paint comes in blue. I don't recommend it. The paint changes to red once you add the copper powder supplied. The instructions say that it should slowly change to blue once the boat is back in the water. At least in this CA foothill lake, the red changed to a color somewhere between blue and red. It is still pretty, but not true blue and not as colorful as the red vc17.

So, my advice, just stick with the red.

By the way, if you're the only once in your area with this paint, you no longer have to adjust your sails as often to stay with your friends! This paint makes anyone look like a better sailor than they are! smiles.

Take care,

Mark

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Gloss
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Response Posted - 03/20/2006 : 18:46:12

Good looking boat Frank

Not surprising, we Fleet 89 members have good lookin boats.

Questions:
How long can one leave VC-17 out of the water? Does it really matter?
Did you roll only, or roll and then brush out the VC-17?
Did you use VC Tar first? I didn't think that the vinylester on the bottom was grey, at least mine is white. Did your boat have the Interprotect system on it? It is grey

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Cloudveil
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Response Posted - 03/21/2006 : 11:13:03

Frank - Looks superb! Was one kit of Vertgas enough to do
your boat? Lovett says the kit is enough for "up to" a 25'
boat, so I was wondering.

Also - Frank G. - my 89 has the vinylester protect bottom - it is light grey, and smooth as a baby's stern.

Thanks - (I'm bummed - wanting to finish boat work,
and it snowed another 6" last night. I live in California,
@ 3,000' elevation, 2nd day of spring, this is not what I
had in mind!)
John W. 89 C25WK #5973 Uzumati

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Frank Hopper
Past Commodore

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Pitcairn Island
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Response Posted - 03/21/2006 : 21:28:13

I used about one half a bottle of VertGlass one each of the boats I have done for a first treatment. One quarter bottle does it for the yearly touch-ups.

I use the small white foam rollers or super short nap rollers and that is all, no brushing.
I did not use anything under the paint.

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